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The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:29 pm
by manden
The creator of the universe exists .

His existence can be recognized at his creation .

All other follows out of his existence .

(please only one logical question with one post - the topic is difficult)

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:03 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Too difficult for you?

Why bother? All you have is two empty assertions.

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:26 pm
by manden
That is enormous too difficult for you .

Most what is perhaps possiple for you , to ask one logical ( ? ) question .

And then perhaps learn a little from my answer , if you should be able to understand something .

Try it , you have nothing to loose !

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:36 pm
by Gary Childress
I'm curious, Manden, do you believe the universe is only 6000 +/- years old and that it was created in 6 days? Are you a "Biblical creationist"? Or what would you have us believe regarding the nature of the universe as far as its origins and whatever proof you perceive to exist of its creation by a creator?

:?:

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:46 pm
by manden
Gary , one question after the other . And please very clear and logical .
The universe is not only 6000 years old but milliards and in which time it was created only the creator knows . I have none of the religions of course -
all in the main false .

Next question , please .

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:49 pm
by Gary Childress
OK.

Question: Who created the universe?

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:05 pm
by manden
Thanks Gary ,

the creator of the universe (the true God) created the universe (everything) - MORE OF HIMSELF IS NOT RECOGNIZABLE !

But it is possible to recognize at his creation a little bit about him - and - and that is the most important - also that he exists

(but incredibly difficult for this corrupt and ill mankind) .

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:06 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Gary Childress wrote:OK.

Question: Who created the universe?
What makes you think that is a valid question?

Have you heard of "question begging"?

Obviously "Who" implies god or gods. And created implies creator/s.

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:11 pm
by Gary Childress
manden wrote:But it is possible to recognize at his creation a little bit about him
What is an example of something we know about this creator?

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:17 pm
by manden
Hobbes , I can answer this question , of course . But I fear , you will not be able to grasp it !

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:19 pm
by Gary Childress
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:OK.

Question: Who created the universe?
What makes you think that is a valid question?

Have you heard of "question begging"?

Obviously "Who" implies god or gods. And created implies creator/s.
Sorry, I'm only allowed to ask one question at a time and I couldn't think of anything else to ask "on the fly".

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:21 pm
by manden
Gary Childress wrote:
manden wrote:But it is possible to recognize at his creation a little bit about him
What is an example of something we know about this creator?
The most important example for us human beings is : the best we have from our creator is reason , logic and moral .

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:24 pm
by Gary Childress
Is God male or female?

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:26 pm
by manden
MORE OF HIMSELF IS NOT RECOGNIZABLE

Re: The Creatororientation

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:28 pm
by Gary Childress
If we don't know God's gender, then don't you mean to say that "more of God is not recognizable"? Using the word "himself" implies male gender.