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What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:07 pm
by Jaded Sage
I'm bored. What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:10 am
by duszek
That the present moment does not exist.
What we call a present moment is the moment in which future changes to the past.
But the present as such has no dimension, no reality.

So how can people who claim to live in the present do so ?

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:28 am
by marjoram_blues
duszek wrote:That the present moment does not exist.
What we call a present moment is the moment in which future changes to the past.
But the present as such has no dimension, no reality.

So how can people who claim to live in the present do so ?
Que sera,sera

Doris Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:52 am
by Ansiktsburk
Där är där man inte är, här är här man är. För här har man alltid med sig.
(Central scandinavian, from a famous 70's childrens program, guess it's partly a reason for my interest in philosophy)

Hamlet and that skull isn't too bad either. Even though it reveals that old Bill didn't think the implications of death and existence over too deeply.

Zizek said something even better, but I have forgot what he said. I'll come back with it when it comes back to me.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:13 pm
by Impenitent
No matter where you go, there you are - Remo Williams

-Imp

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:18 pm
by henry quirk
See the world as it is, then act accordingly.

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Mind your own business and keep your hands to yourself.

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If you know someone is coming to kill you, get up early in the morning and go kill him (or her) first.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:42 pm
by Jaded Sage
duszek wrote:That the present moment does not exist.
What we call a present moment is the moment in which future changes to the past.
But the present as such has no dimension, no reality.

So how can people who claim to live in the present do so ?

I suppose they choose not to focus on either the past or the future, just on that moment the future changes to the past at the moment it happens.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:43 pm
by Jaded Sage
Impenitent wrote:No matter where you go, there you are - Remo Williams

-Imp
You have no idea how often my old prof dropped that line in university. lol

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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:45 pm
by Jaded Sage
henry quirk wrote:See the world as it is, then act accordingly.

#

Mind your own business and keep your hands to yourself.

#

If you know someone is coming to kill you, get up early in the morning and go kill him (or her) first.
Seeing the world as it is is quite a task isn't it?
Also, Plato calls minding your own business temperence, or sound-mindedness. Cool, huh?

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:53 pm
by marjoram_blues
Jaded Sage wrote:I'm bored. What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?
Describe your boredom. Why do you ask us to alleviate it for you. Does it make you feel less alone. You like games. Your turn.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:57 pm
by Jaded Sage
There's not much to describe. No, I never feel lonely, nor resentful nor envious. Did I mention that on here? I was going to help everyone with those, but I was met with hostility. I suppose some enjoy unhappiness—their own and that of others.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:02 am
by marjoram_blues
Jaded Sage wrote:There's not much to describe. No, I never feel lonely, nor resentful nor envious. Did I mention that on here? I was going to help everyone with those, but I was met with hostility. I suppose some enjoy unhappiness—their own and that of others.
Try again. That was a fail.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:13 am
by Jaded Sage
I think I will. But the trouble is—and this always sounds weird—the sense of it has to come to me. I always use the same Buddhist analogy of "we are placing our hands on a hot stove wondering why it is burning us, and all we have to do is remove our hands (or have the sense to remove our hands)." I repeat it often, but it doesn't help. I need the literal sense the absense of which causes us to experience these negativities, or if I may be so bold, to experience these spiritual diseases. I don't have much influence when the sense comes, but next time it does, I'll record it and share it here.

In fact, replace "sense" with "hyper-sense." We all have common sense, but this is uncommon sense.

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:46 am
by marjoram_blues
Jaded Sage wrote:I think I will. But the trouble is—and this always sounds weird—the sense of it has to come to me. I always use the same Buddhist analogy of "we are placing our hands on a hot stove wondering why it is burning us, and all we have to do is remove our hands (or have the sense to remove our hands)." I repeat it often, but it doesn't help. I need the literal sense the absense of which causes us to experience these negativities, or if I may be so bold, to experience these spiritual diseases. I don't have much influence when the sense comes, but next time it does, I'll record it and share it here.

In fact, replace "sense" with "hyper-sense." We all have common sense, but this is uncommon sense.
You are hyper-sensitive. You experienced an episode of boredom, a 'spiritual disease' only yesterday morning. You have hyper-awareness, and you can't explain what type of boredom, it's nature, or anything. And you feel qualified to help 'everyone' here?

Re: What's the most interesting philosophical thing you've ever heard?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:50 am
by Jaded Sage
No, I don't have those spiritual diseases anymore. I occationally get hyper-sense. That means more than normal sense. If I could give you an example you'd know what I mean, but I lost the one I wrote about envy and jealousy. The cause of those things is a kind of confusion or lack of sense. Yeah, when the obvious truth is presented, what its absense caused fades away. Easy.