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Crackpot.attofishpi wrote: .
...OR there is NO God...and everything i am suggesting direct from the nature of our reality is mere coincidence.
It's not 'the' alphabet but an alphabet and as such you could just put it down to coincidence and your confirmation bias in searching for things to confirm what you believe.attofishpi wrote:The Alpha Bet has perfect symmetry between the consonants and vowels..how or more to the point...why? ...
It goes like this. Man's available resources are depleting (entropy is increasing). Life becomes increasingly difficult with the overburden that an ever increasing population places upon these resources. As time continues and humanity has not annihilated itself or been annihilated by other means, Man creates a system, perhaps even biological where our same reality can be emulated allowing for super-efficiency. A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it.thedoc wrote:I don't understand why Entropy would result in AI or God? None of this seems to be related, just random fictions thrown together as word salad.
You don't even need entropy for this model, Brian. (Hmm ... Brian ... BrAIn! ;). Entropy wouldn't be an issue if we weren't so dominant, just as it wasn't an issue for most societies before we completely took over the joint.attofishpi wrote:It goes like this. Man's available resources are depleting (entropy is increasing). Life becomes increasingly difficult with the overburden that an ever increasing population places upon these resources. As time continues and humanity has not annihilated itself or been annihilated by other means, Man creates a system, perhaps even biological where our same reality can be emulated allowing for super-efficiency. A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it.
This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.
Ah nice. I still occasionally get birthday cards spelt Brain!Greta wrote:You don't even need entropy for this model, Brian. (Hmm ... Brian ... BrAIn!. Entropy wouldn't be an issue if we weren't so dominant, just as it wasn't an issue for most societies before we completely took over the joint.
Not simple at all, and maybe more resource intensive given all the 'nutirent' synthesizing you'd have to do along with all the technical infrastructure.attofishpi wrote:... A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it. ...
There are many other sci-fi scenarios out there just as (im)probable, it depends if you come from a Physics or Biology slant as it appears people are ignoring that with the Gene Biology is now a fully fledged science with an engineering wing(apologies to the molecular chemists).This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.
It was my example that was simplified. I'm certain that in the future the technical aspects to keeping a brain alive and capable of sensing a simulated reality would greatly diminish the energy resources required to feed and transport the mass of a human body.Arising_uk wrote:Not simple at all, and maybe more resource intensive given all the 'nutirent' synthesizing you'd have to do along with all the technical infrastructure.
Why bother when Biology could very well just alter our make-up in the future?attofishpi wrote:It was my example that was simplified. I'm certain that in the future the technical aspects to keeping a brain alive and capable of sensing a simulated reality would greatly diminish the energy resources required to feed and transport the mass of a human body. ...
What would give you this impression? My take is that you are just producing from your current milieu and right now that is a computational one.I don't believe our current state of reality is simulated via some AI, but from my experience of this 'God' entity i would not rule it out.
Biological evolution is slower than technological change, unless you're referring to biotechnology.Arising_uk wrote:Why bother when Biology could very well just alter our make-up in the future?attofishpi wrote:It was my example that was simplified. I'm certain that in the future the technical aspects to keeping a brain alive and capable of sensing a simulated reality would greatly diminish the energy resources required to feed and transport the mass of a human body. ...
Yes the theory states that Entropy will increase in a closed system but the Earth is not a closed system, the Earth has energy input from the Sun, so it is unlikely that entropy will give rise to anything like AI.attofishpi wrote:It goes like this. Man's available resources are depleting (entropy is increasing). Life becomes increasingly difficult with the overburden that an ever increasing population places upon these resources. As time continues and humanity has not annihilated itself or been annihilated by other means, Man creates a system, perhaps even biological where our same reality can be emulated allowing for super-efficiency. A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it.thedoc wrote:I don't understand why Entropy would result in AI or God? None of this seems to be related, just random fictions thrown together as word salad.
This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.
I meant the subject Biology and it could now be considered as having a technology(apologies to the molecular biologists).Greta wrote:Biological evolution is slower than technological change, unless you're referring to biotechnology.
A fair perspective IMO - technology as an extension / continuation / outgrowth of "nature". I don't think humans are "unnatural", just part of the biosphere like other life forms and currently in a dominant period. It seems possible that humans will be superceded like the trilobites and dinos, and like them eventually only persist in the diminished forms of the distant descendants.Arising_uk wrote:I meant the subject Biology and it could now be considered as having a technology(apologies to the molecular biologists).Greta wrote:Biological evolution is slower than technological change, unless you're referring to biotechnology.