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Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:35 pm
by Jaded Sage
I looked up the root, and apparently that's what it means. So true blasphemy could be anything from deception to slander to teaching someone violence to immoral debate tactics. Thoughts?
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:26 pm
by Harbal
If the user of a word intends a particular meaning and the hearers of the word infer the same meaning then, as far as that particular situation is concerned, that is the meaning of the word.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:43 pm
by Jaded Sage
I suppose sometimes that is the case, but it is irrelevant here.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:59 pm
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote:I suppose sometimes that is the case, but it is irrelevant here.
The only time it isn't the case is when the word is used in a legal context where the word will have a precise definition. Otherwise, a word just means whatever the user of it intends it to mean. If others interpret the word differently then a misunderstanding will occur, which is often what happens.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:05 pm
by Jaded Sage
My mistake. I confused user with original user. If you mean original user, I misunderstood you. I suppose the same rule applies to legal cases too.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:07 pm
by Jaded Sage
Check out this cool.. ..etymology?
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Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:46 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Jaded Sage wrote:I looked up the root, and apparently that's what it means. So true blasphemy could be anything from deception to slander to teaching someone violence to immoral debate tactics. Thoughts?
The thought which your brain is incapable of understanding is that meanings precede words and their definitions which can only ever approximate the intentions of the person who is attempting to express themselves.
The true meanings do not however lie in wait for the moment an enlightened person such as yourself (presumably with the help of God) uncovers them from the Ideal Realm of words placed their by Plato.
Blasphemy is meaningless. As it has religious connotations its meaning relates to saying things that God would rather you did not say. Since there is no God, then the word vanishes into thin air and is no longer used by reasonable people.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:51 pm
by Jaded Sage
I'm going to help you on this issue one time.
We are working under the assumption that God exists, whether or not it is true.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:53 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Jaded Sage wrote:I'm going to help you on this issue one time.
We are working under the assumption that God exists, whether or not it is true.
Bat shit crazy.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:05 am
by Obvious Leo
Jaded Sage wrote:
We are working under the assumption that God exists, whether or not it is true.
This is not the sort of assumption which is likely to lead to a meaningful philosophical discourse but let's play the silly game anyway. What's it got to do with blasphemy? What would be the likelihood that an omnipotent and omniscient being would give a flying fuck about what you or I might have so say about him?
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:14 am
by Jaded Sage
Sure it is. We just skip the endless debate about existence. We have to focus on blasphemy as calling good bad and bad good to avoid devolving into a debate about superstition.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:27 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Jaded Sage wrote:Sure it is. We just skip the endless debate about existence. We have to focus on blasphemy as calling good bad and bad good to avoid devolving into a debate about superstition.
Nope.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:02 am
by Harbal
Jaded Sage wrote: We have to focus on blasphemy as calling good bad and bad good to avoid devolving into a debate about superstition.
Where is all this leading? What is it, exactly, that you are trying to establish?
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:04 am
by Jaded Sage
I have no idea. I'm just seeing where it goes for now.
Re: Blasphemy: to injure via words
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:20 am
by Obvious Leo
Jaded Sage wrote: We have to focus on blasphemy as calling good bad and bad good
Good or bad according to whom?