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Chicken or egg? What came first?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:14 am
by AiR
Chicken or egg? What came first? This is such a classic question that the world has continued to ask, for years and centuries, without coming to an answer. Is it not true that we contemplate - we were born from our parents, but then, where did our parents come from? They were born from their parents, but where did their parents come from? So finally, if the chicken came from the egg and the egg came from the chicken and the chicken came from the egg and the egg came from the chicken, then where did the chicken and the egg come from? Either the chicken or the egg should have come first.

People argue similarly on the origin of a tree and the seed. The seed gives birth to the tree and the tree gives seeds, but the seeds create a tree and the tree gives the seeds, but how did it all start? Did it start from the seed or did it start from a tree? Did it start from the chicken or did it start from the egg? It is after deep contemplation of this that you realize that this whole world is not a creation, but a manifestation of God. They all came about at one spot. Scientifically it’s called the Big Bang, but actually there is no big bang; it is the creation of the master creator. Now this is beyond religion. This is a spiritual logic that is used to understand creation. Thus, otherwise, how did all these species of man, animals, birds and plants come about? What is the secret of creation? One understands the secret only when he understands that this not a creation but a manifestation, and this manifestation is nothing but God manifested in various forms. Millions of God particles, manifested in plants, animals, human beings, create the universe as presented by God, but it’s only with spiritual logic that one can understand this. Scientifically, this will reach a dead end.

AiR

Re: Chicken or egg? What came first?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:48 am
by attofishpi
AiR wrote:Chicken or egg? What came first? This is such a classic question that the world has continued to ask, for years and centuries, without coming to an answer. Is it not true that we contemplate - we were born from our parents, but then, where did our parents come from? They were born from their parents, but where did their parents come from? So finally, if the chicken came from the egg and the egg came from the chicken and the chicken came from the egg and the egg came from the chicken, then where did the chicken and the egg come from? Either the chicken or the egg should have come first.

People argue similarly on the origin of a tree and the seed. The seed gives birth to the tree and the tree gives seeds, but the seeds create a tree and the tree gives the seeds, but how did it all start? Did it start from the seed or did it start from a tree? Did it start from the chicken or did it start from the egg? It is after deep contemplation of this that you realize that this whole world is not a creation, but a manifestation of God. They all came about at one spot. Scientifically it’s called the Big Bang, but actually there is no big bang; it is the creation of the master creator. Now this is beyond religion. This is a spiritual logic that is used to understand creation. Thus, otherwise, how did all these species of man, animals, birds and plants come about? What is the secret of creation? One understands the secret only when he understands that this not a creation but a manifestation, and this manifestation is nothing but God manifested in various forms. Millions of God particles, manifested in plants, animals, human beings, create the universe as presented by God, but it’s only with spiritual logic that one can understand this. Scientifically, this will reach a dead end.

AiR
Both. Its called biological evolution, and i know God exists.

PS. Science will never reach a dead end dipshit - so long as there is an intelligence capable of analysing existence - its theist twods like you that give people that comprehend 'God's existence a bad wrap.

Re: Chicken or egg? What came first?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:05 am
by hazlett
Philosophically speaking, your question about what came first chicken or egg, seed or tree etc is refer to cause and effect. Chicken is the cause and egg is the effect. Likewise, seed and tree or other creation. Now, if there is the cause and effect in every creation where does creation came from. You are right that it came from God which is refer as the ultimate cause and refer also in philosophy as Supreme Being. The meaning of supreme in oxford dictionary are superior to all or most powerful. A superior man can be known not only through his action but also in words. One command that will came out in his mouth and it will be immediately done by all things under his jurisdiction. Ergo, God is supreme being that is most powerful thus, even in His word has authority and power to create and destroy all things, whether living or non living. So, plants, animal, universe, water and clay was created through word except man.

Re: Chicken or egg? What came first?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:10 am
by Skip
In the case of chickens, it's simple enough: a proto-chicken whose DNA had undergone some modification mated with another modified proto-chicken and laid an egg that hatched something that can be classified as a chicken.


In the case of metaphysics, there is a far vaster region of unknowns. Even if you posit a first cause, you have no logical basis for characterizing it as humanoid - or, indeed, attributing any qualities to it. Whatever it could possibly - in reality as we understand reality - be or have been bears no necessary resemblance to the legends of any particular human tribe. As for giving it a name and talking to it, that's just childish. The Big Bang is far more probable, and nobody asks it to forgive gluttony or cure shingles.

Re: Chicken or egg? What came first?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:07 pm
by Jaded Sage
Egg.