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Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:52 pm
by Philosophy Now
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:17 pm
by spike
I wish Mr. Lewis would tell us which article's conclusion he found crazy because I don't find any of the articles worthy enough to finish.
There should be an article in this issue about why we need the tension between liberty and equality in our governance. It is something like the tension we have and need between science and philosophy. The tension is a creative one. It keeps society alive and awake. It is a creative tension that keeps us on our tones and reinvents us. It's a tension that keeps us from atrophying and ending up like communism did, in the dumpster.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:56 pm
by spike
I've heard of of civil liberties. However, I've never really heard of civil equalities. I'm thinking that's because civil societies fundamentally grow from liberty first rather than equality. The push for equality as first and foremost has generally ended in disaster, creating uncivil, incohesive societies like that under communism (Marxism), which was the greatest pusher of equality.
Under communism a society of incivility and incohesiveness emerged. For instance, under communism neighbours were made to spy on each other and thus grew mistrustful of each other. When a society lacks trust it can't meaningfully work as one or create the networks that enhance a civil, cohesive society, therefore becoming dysfunctional.
Those who came up with "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" got the order right. Liberty must come first. Liberty gives us the choice and self-enlightenment to be equal or at least aim for it. Fraternity joins and holds the other two together.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:20 am
by HaHaHa
Liberty and equality? That's strange, I can't seem to locate either in the world at any point in history.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:33 am
by Dalek Prime
HaHaHa wrote:Liberty and equality? That's strange, I can't seem to locate either in the world at any point in history.
Now who's bemoaning existence, huh?

Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:36 am
by HaHaHa
Dalek Prime wrote:HaHaHa wrote:Liberty and equality? That's strange, I can't seem to locate either in the world at any point in history.
Now who's bemoaning existence, huh?

Me bemoaning? Not at all. No, I'm merely inquiring and asking questions.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:39 am
by Dalek Prime
HaHaHa wrote:Dalek Prime wrote:HaHaHa wrote:Liberty and equality? That's strange, I can't seem to locate either in the world at any point in history.
Now who's bemoaning existence, huh?

Me bemoaning? Not at all. No, I'm merely inquiring and asking questions.
Very deep questions, as I can see...

Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:43 am
by HaHaHa
Dalek Prime:
Very deep questions, as I can see...

Not enough for an antinatalist I see.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:52 am
by Dalek Prime
HaHaHa wrote: Dalek Prime:
Very deep questions, as I can see...

Not enough for an antinatalist I see.
Not enough to interest an inquisitive child...
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:55 am
by HaHaHa
Dalek Prime:
Not enough to interest an inquisitive child...
Wow, you managed seven words that time. A new record for you I am sure.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:13 am
by Dalek Prime
HaHaHa wrote: Dalek Prime:
Not enough to interest an inquisitive child...
Wow, you managed seven words that time. A new record for you I am sure.
Just when I thought we were getting along swimmingly, you have to go spoil it with such harshness. Mildly disappointed, here....
Okay, I lied.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:36 am
by HaHaHa
Dalek Prime wrote:HaHaHa wrote: Dalek Prime:
Not enough to interest an inquisitive child...
Wow, you managed seven words that time. A new record for you I am sure.
Just when I thought we were getting along swimmingly, you have to go spoil it with such harshness. Mildly disappointed, here....
Okay, I lied.
We can call a truce between our pissing contest any time you are ready.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:46 am
by Dalek Prime
HaHaHa wrote:
We can call a truce between our pissing contest any time you are ready.
Sure. Let me know what's convenient for your schedule.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:53 am
by HaHaHa
Dalek Prime wrote:HaHaHa wrote:
We can call a truce between our pissing contest any time you are ready.
Sure. Let me know what's convenient for your schedule.
Now if you like.
Re: Liberty & Equality
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:54 am
by Dalek Prime
HaHaHa wrote:Dalek Prime wrote:HaHaHa wrote:
We can call a truce between our pissing contest any time you are ready.
Sure. Let me know what's convenient for your schedule.
Now if you like.
Okay. Going to bed anyways. Goodnight.