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This is a debate I had on a science forum. It is regarding my theory that could change how we all think as human beings. Many people say that we can have love, joy, happiness, inspiration, and good meaning in our lives through our way of thinking alone even while we are in a severely crippled depressed mood. But I ask you. How the hell is that love, joy, happiness, inspiration, and good meaning? This makes no sense to me. It would only make sense to say that our good moods (pleasant feelings/emotions) that give us those said things mentioned. Now here is the link below to this entire debate I had. Go ahead and read it all and give me your detailed feedback:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/bpe7dfly3 ... Theory.rtf

Anyone who tells me to think positive can fuck right off.

MozartLink wrote:It is regarding my theory that could change how we all think as human beings. Many people say that we can have love, joy, happiness, inspiration, and good meaning in our lives through our way of thinking alone even while we are in a severely crippled depressed mood.

This is putting the cart in front of the horse. It is these very emotions/desires that ‘drive’ us to do what we do, …not the other way around. We don’t get to pick and choose the emotions/desires (and thoughts) that pull us through life. It is what it is.

Dalek Prime wrote:Anyone who tells me to think positive can fuck right off.

What about "never mind" ?
Or "buck up old boy, now there's a good chap!"
Even; "cheer up. It'll never happen"

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote:Anyone who tells me to think positive can fuck right off.

What about "never mind" ?
Or "buck up old boy, now there's a good chap!"
Even; "cheer up. It'll never happen"

On your bike, mate!

Yeah, I guess they're alright.

Dalek Prime wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote:Anyone who tells me to think positive can fuck right off.

What about "never mind" ?
Or "buck up old boy, now there's a good chap!"
Even; "cheer up. It'll never happen"

On your bike, mate!

Yeah, I guess they're alright.

Hope your Dad's problem gets resolved soon. `My neighbour has been stressed for the last year because her dad had Alzheimer's but would not leave his house. His condition worsened over the period and his visits to hospital got more frequent due to falls, his recognition of his own daughter got less, and his reason and reasonableness got more difficult.
Last week she was smiling for the first time; her father finally died just in time for the holiday she had had booked months in advance (a holiday she thought she was going to have to cancel. It's an odd things to feel happiness at a loved one's death and she was fully aware of the tragic irony. The tears will follow.
When my mum died after a long period of decline, I did not have time to grieve as I now had my schizophrenic brother to look after. Come the funeral and the songs I had chosen for her - I blubbed big time. Deep and penetrating weeping, all that tension that had building up.
So when your moment comes don't feel guilty about the massive relief you are going to feel. The grief is best delayed.

Thanks Hobbes, it's appreciated.

The family met yesterday with the medical team members, my dad involved as best he could. There is nothing more to be done except to keep him comfortable in palliative care. I had a nice moment with him. I was leaning over the side of the bed, and he reached over to 'borrow' my reading glasses from off my nose lol! So I helped him remove them and put them on him. He seemed happier wearing them, though I'm sure it didn't help his distance vision any.

I'm heading back to Toronto today (The rest of my family is in London, Ontario). I'm going to miss that man.