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A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:40 am
by Obvious Leo
TWO

The number of gunshots fired on duty by the entire Norwegian police force in 2014. Neither of them injured anybody.

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:39 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Obvious Leo wrote:TWO

The number of gunshots fired on duty by the entire Norwegian police force in 2014. Neither of them injured anybody.
But Norwegians are 'socialist scum'. :wink:

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:11 pm
by HexHammer
Yearh, but they'r like 5 mill or something about that, Gunslingerland has like 300 mill ..so the comparison is poor.

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:38 pm
by uwot
HexHammer wrote:Yearh, but they'r like 5 mill or something about that, Gunslingerland has like 300 mill ..so the comparison is poor.
So how many shots were fired in Gunslingerland in 2014, Mr Hammer?

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:55 pm
by Dalek Prime
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Obvious Leo wrote:TWO

The number of gunshots fired on duty by the entire Norwegian police force in 2014. Neither of them injured anybody.
But Norwegians are 'socialist scum'. :wink:
Lol! Nice....

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:52 pm
by HexHammer
uwot wrote:
HexHammer wrote:Yearh, but they'r like 5 mill or something about that, Gunslingerland has like 300 mill ..so the comparison is poor.
So how many shots were fired in Gunslingerland in 2014, Mr Hammer?
Your question is unrelated to my former answer, and how should I know ..find your answer!

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:55 pm
by Obvious Leo
I presume we refer to the US when we speak of Gunslingerland.

No statistics are easily available for how many gunshots were fired on duty by US law enforcement officers in 2014, although such data would probably be accessible to a meticulous researcher. However it is known that police were directly responsible for 623 firearms homicides during this period as well as an unspecified number of non-fatal gunshot injuries to the general population. Statistics on other forms of police violence are not easily obtained in the US because most jurisdictions have specific mechanisms in place to shield this information from public scrutiny.

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:38 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
HexHammer wrote:Yearh, but they'r like 5 mill or something about that, Gunslingerland has like 300 mill ..so the comparison is poor.
Take a state then, with a comparable population. England is densely populated, and someone pointed out previously that it had less killings by police in the entire 20th century than the US had in March, or something similar.

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:59 pm
by HexHammer
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
HexHammer wrote:Yearh, but they'r like 5 mill or something about that, Gunslingerland has like 300 mill ..so the comparison is poor.
Take a state then, with a comparable population. England is densely populated, and someone pointed out previously that it had less killings by police in the entire 20th century than the US had in March, or something similar.
That is very true.

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:32 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Obvious Leo wrote:TWO

The number of gunshots fired on duty by the entire Norwegian police force in 2014. Neither of them injured anybody.
Too bad they missed.

Leo, if your grandchildren were messed around with, how would you feel then?

PhilX

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:19 pm
by Obvious Leo
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Leo, if your grandchildren were messed around with, how would you feel then?
Phil. If anybody fucks with my grandchildren I'll either kill that person with my bare hands or die in the attempt.

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:18 am
by Obvious Leo
Something statistical that I came across today.

The US loses more of its citizens to either gun homicide or gun suicide every 3 months than it did in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.

From my own evening news bulletin tonight these words from a prominent US shithead politician whose name I didn't catch.

"The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".

On a scale of 1-10 how well would we say this philosophy has been working out for the US people?

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:33 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Obvious Leo wrote:Something statistical that I came across today.

The US loses more of its citizens to either gun homicide or gun suicide every 3 months than it did in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.

From my own evening news bulletin tonight these words from a prominent US shithead politician whose name I didn't catch.

"The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".

On a scale of 1-10 how well would we say this philosophy has been working out for the US people?
Don't know since I haven't seen any studies. Occasionally I do hear about store owners who do use a gun on the baddies.

PhilX

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:58 am
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:Yearh, but they'r like 5 mill or something about that, Gunslingerland has like 300 mill ..so the comparison is poor.
You've not offered a comparison. Without saying how many gunshots were fired in the USA you are just blowing hot air.

On this rubric. The USA would be shooting 1200 shots per year.

The USA knows how many get botox every year, but haven't got a clue how many are injured by police, nor how many are killed.
It seems over 700 people were gunned down by the police, and 150 of these were unarmed. Non fatal shootings are unknown.

On a conservative estimate, lets say that they were killed with one bullet, and the rest of the bullets accounted for the injured.
Hey - you do the maths.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/one ... le-n405376

Re: A telling statistic

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:05 am
by Hobbes' Choice
In the USA the police can't arrest a person with a gun, but can gaol them for possessing a gramme of crack.
I think their priorities of protection people from harm are backwards.

A simple licensing system would, pay for itself, give the police the chance to gaol gun owning criminals, and allow fine good citizens to keep their guns.
It would not stop Columbine, and the other mass killings by good upstanding citizens but it would reduce the power of criminal gangs and reduce the net number of guns in the USA.

Oh shit - gun dealers would go broke! Shit we can't have that.