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Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:09 pm
by Greatest I am
Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Religions and many charitable organizations of all stripes make their revenues by lying to people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... endas.html
Should we help protect the gullible by eliminating all the fraud that is being passed off as religion and charity?
Those who do not believe the lies being sold by religions and charities are presently subsidize the tax exemptions and credits that religions and charities enjoy. What they save in taxes, non-believers and those who actually want to give to charities must fork up.
I am not what most would call a non-believer, I am a Gnostic Christian, but still resent my hard earned tax money being used to perpetuate what most know are lies. If you are a non-believer, or one who wants your charitable donations to actually be used for charity, I hope you feel the same and do not like being fleeced the way the gullible are.
There ought to be a law against institution like religions and bogus charities that live off of lying to the gullible.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... on-a-year/
Do you agree?
Regards
DL
Re: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:21 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
The trouble with this law, is that the bodies with the power to pass such laws are the biggest liars of all.
Re: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:07 pm
by bobevenson
If people are defrauded by any so-called nonprofit organization, they can file charges against it as they can do against any business. What is improper is for the government to give tax breaks to nonprofit organizations, which represent forced taxpayer support.
Re: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:26 pm
by Greatest I am
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The trouble with this law, is that the bodies with the power to pass such laws are the biggest liars of all.
They walk among us but are limited by statistics.
The ones I speak of are not limited to statistics but only restricted by the gullibility of those who believe their lies.
Regards
DL
Re: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:30 pm
by Greatest I am
bobevenson wrote:If people are defrauded by any so-called nonprofit organization, they can file charges against it as they can do against any business. What is improper is for the government to give tax breaks to nonprofit organizations, which represent forced taxpayer support.
I don't think a taxpayer particularly minds helping out a non-profit. Most people are quite generous.
Personally, I just dislike paying for a non-profit's Lear jet or other expensive waste.
I am after liars. Not those who are genuine in what they do.
Regards
DL
Re: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:40 pm
by bobevenson
Greatest I am wrote:bobevenson wrote:If people are defrauded by any so-called nonprofit organization, they can file charges against it as they can do against any business. What is improper is for the government to give tax breaks to nonprofit organizations, which represent forced taxpayer support.
I don't think a taxpayer particularly minds helping out a non-profit. Most people are quite generous.
Personally, I just dislike paying for a non-profit's Lear jet or other expensive waste.
I am after liars. Not those who are genuine in what they do.
Regards
DL
No, I'm sorry, but you're wrong on all issues. First of all, as a taxpayer, I do mind being forced to contribute to any organization. Secondly, you are not in a position to determine whether or not a Lear jet is a proper expense for an organization. Thirdly, lying is not against the law unless it's done to the fucking government.
Re: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:42 pm
by Greatest I am
We have fraud laws in our countries and those are laws against lying.
Here are a few example of liars.
The crooks ain't just confined to religions. Here are a few more crooks:
Rank Charity name... Total raised by solicitors ...Paid to solicitors ... % spent on direct cash aid
1 Kids Wish Network 137.9million 115.9 million 2.5%
2 Cancer Fund of America 86.8million 75.4 million 1.0%
3 Children's Wish Foundation International 92.7million 61.2 million 10.6%
4 Firefighters Charitable Foundation 62.8million 53.8 million 7.4%
5 International Union of Police Associations, AFL-CIO 66.6million 50.4 million 0.5%
6 Breast Cancer Relief Foundation 63.9million 44.8 million 2.2%
7 American Association of State Troopers 48.1million 38.6 million 8.9%
8 National Veterans Service Fund 70.2million 36.9 million 7.8%
9 Children's Cancer Fund of America 43.7million 34.4 million 4.6%
10 Children's Cancer Recovery Foundation 38.5million 28.9 million 0.7%
11 Project Cure (Bradenton, FL) 53.8million 25.5 million 0.0%
12 Committee For Missing Children 26.6million 23.5 million 0.8%
13 Youth Development Fund 27.5million 22.6 million 1.0%
14 Association for Firefighters and Paramedics 24.0million 21.4 million 3.1%
15 Woman To Woman Breast Cancer Foundation 19.4million 18.2 million 0.3%
16 United States Deputy Sheriffs' Association 25.6million 17.9 million 0.8%
17 National Caregiving Foundation 21.0million 17.4 million 3.2%
18 Vietnow National Headquarters 19.1million 16.7 million 2.8%
19 National Cancer Coalition 42.1million 16.4 million 1.3%
20 Operation Lookout National Center for Missing Youth 18.2million 14.7 million 0.0%
21 American Foundation For Disabled Children 15.8million 13.4 million 0.6%
22 Heart Support of America 31.4million 12.9 million 3.1%
23 Police Protective Fund 37.7million 12.2 million 0.7%
24 Veterans Assistance Foundation 12.4million 11.1 million 10.4%
25 Children's Charity Fund 14.0million 10.3 million 2.4%
26 The Veterans Fund 12.6million 10.2 million 2.5%
27 Wishing Well Foundation USA 12.6million 10.1 million 4.3%
28 Disabled Police Officers of America Inc. 11.4million 9.5 million 2.3%
29 Disabled Police and Sheriffs Foundation 10.4million 8.9 million 1.0%
30 National Police Defense Foundation 10.6million 8.4 million 5.1%
31 Defeat Diabetes Foundation 12.7million 7.8 million 0.0%
32 American Association of the Deaf & Blind 10.3million 7.8 million 0.1%
33 Optimal Medical Foundation 7.8million 7.6 million 1.0%
34 Circle of Friends For American Veterans 9.3million 7.2 million 4.4%
35 United Breast Cancer Foundation 12.7million 7.2 million 6.3%
36 Reserve Police Officers Association 7.8million 6.9 million 1.2%
37 Children's Leukemia Research Association 9.8million 6.8 million 11.1%
38 Disabled Police Officers Counseling Center 7.6million 6.4 million 0.1%
39 Shiloh International Ministries 7.7million 6.0 million 1.1%
40 Find the Children 7.4million 4.8 million 4.6%
41 Survivors and Victims Empowered 7.7million 4.8 million 0.0%
42 Firefighters Assistance Fund 5.7million 4.7 million 3.1%
43 Caring for Our Children Foundation 5.1million 4.4 million 1.6%
44 National Narcotic Officers Associations Coalition 5.0million 4.2 million 0.0%
45 Our American Veterans 2.6million 2.3 million 2.3%
46 Roger Wyburn-Mason & Jack M Blount Foundation For Eradication of Rheumatoid Disease 9.0million 1.9 million 0.0%
47 Hope Cancer Fund 2.1million 1.7 million 0.5%
48 Firefighters Burn Fund 2.0million 1.7 million 1.5%
Crooks all, and there ain't nothing illegal about it.
Regards
DL