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Hi everyone ...
I've newly decided to join forums in order to ask my questions and use your posts .
I was Muslim but I questioned my religion and then god and now I'm researching about God's existence though I have tendencies to Atheism and I love science and interested in philosophy .
I'll be happy if we can have conversations together , so nice to meet you all .
and a question please ... who commonly visit and participate in the topics ?
I mean if participants are philosophy students or just interested people like myself ?

Students? Interested persons such as yourself, here? No, mostly ignoramuses and arseholes.

Enjoy your stay. Or wisely leave this backwater, never to return.

Dissident.1996 wrote:Hi everyone ...
I've newly decided to join forums in order to ask my questions and use your posts .
I was Muslim but I questioned my religion and then god and now I'm researching about God's existence though I have tendencies to Atheism and I love science and interested in philosophy .
I'll be happy if we can have conversations together , so nice to meet you all .
and a question please ... who commonly visit and participate in the topics ?
I mean if participants are philosophy students or just interested people like myself ?

Welcome.

Was it difficult to escape religion with your family?
If you find things a bit rude and unpleasant here, there are some other Forums that are less so. But there are some reasonable and friendly people here too. Good luck.

As a member, in good standing, of the "ignoramuses and arseholes" club, I welcome you to the booby hatch...enter freely and abandon all hope.

henry quirk wrote:As a member, in good standing, of the "ignoramuses and arseholes" club, I welcome you to the booby hatch...enter freely and abandon all hope.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Dissident.1996 wrote:Hi everyone ...
I've newly decided to join forums in order to ask my questions and use your posts .
I was Muslim but I questioned my religion and then god and now I'm researching about God's existence though I have tendencies to Atheism and I love science and interested in philosophy .
I'll be happy if we can have conversations together , so nice to meet you all .
and a question please ... who commonly visit and participate in the topics ?
I mean if participants are philosophy students or just interested people like myself ?

Welcome.

Was it difficult to escape religion with your family?
If you find things a bit rude and unpleasant here, there are some other Forums that are less so. But there are some reasonable and friendly people here too. Good luck.

Yeah unfortunately in religious families you may face an inappropriate reactions . specially in Islamic ones which are more extreme toward this . and I was not the exception too , though i tried to keep the bonds strong between me and my family ...

Dissident.1996 wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Dissident.1996 wrote:Hi everyone ...
I've newly decided to join forums in order to ask my questions and use your posts .
I was Muslim but I questioned my religion and then god and now I'm researching about God's existence though I have tendencies to Atheism and I love science and interested in philosophy .
I'll be happy if we can have conversations together , so nice to meet you all .
and a question please ... who commonly visit and participate in the topics ?
I mean if participants are philosophy students or just interested people like myself ?

Welcome.

Was it difficult to escape religion with your family?
If you find things a bit rude and unpleasant here, there are some other Forums that are less so. But there are some reasonable and friendly people here too. Good luck.

Yeah unfortunately in religious families you may face an inappropriate reactions . specially in Islamic ones which are more extreme toward this . and I was not the exception too , though i tried to keep the bonds strong between me and my family ...

I'm assuming you are living in the West (UK?). Where you parents from the Middle East or Pakistan?

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I'm assuming you are living in the West (UK?). Where you parents from the Middle East or Pakistan?[/quote]

No . I live in Iran (I doubt if there's any Iranian here?) . I know that westerns are not/less extremist toward these issues but in Muslim families its different . though I don't think if westerns can get along with ATHEISM yet too . can they ?

And excuse me , Where are the forum's participants mostly from ? if you know ...

Dissident.1996 wrote:]

No . I live in Iran (I doubt if there's any Iranian here?) . I know that westerns are not/less extremist toward these issues but in Muslim families its different . though I don't think if westerns can get along with ATHEISM yet too . can they ?

What do you think of the agreement on nuclear matters? How has the media shown it in Iran. Do you have access to other News services or is your Internet access restricted?\


Most on here are from the UK or US.

So let me state that I think the coup that brought Shah Resi Pahlavi to power is a shameful episode in UK\US history and had done much harm to Iran. It is also a shame that we did not support the liberal elements in the Revolution of 1980 which brought the monstrous Islamism to control Iran.
When is the next election, btw?


On Atheism - as I said in my PM. Atheism is perfectly acceptable. I'm surprised that you might think otherwise. All over the Western world people are non-religious, some still have a belief of some kind, whilst others have none. No one faces any shame.

The only exception is probably in some rural areas, and in some of the "Southern States" of the USA, where kids can find it hard to tell their parents.

For myself, I told my parents that I did not believe in god when I was about 6, and they told me I was free to think that.

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What do you think of the agreement on nuclear matters? How has the media shown it in Iran. Do you have access to other News services or is your Internet access restricted?\


Most on here are from the UK or US.

So let me state that I think the coup that brought Shah Resi Pahlavi to power is a shameful episode in UK\US history and had done much harm to Iran. It is also a shame that we did not support the liberal elements in the Revolution of 1980 which brought the monstrous Islamism to control Iran.
When is the next election, btw?


On Atheism - as I said in my PM. Atheism is perfectly acceptable. I'm surprised that you might think otherwise. All over the Western world people are non-religious, some still have a belief of some kind, whilst others have none. No one faces any shame.

The only exception is probably in some rural areas, and in some of the "Southern States" of the USA, where kids can find it hard to tell their parents.

For myself, I told my parents that I did not believe in god when I was about 6, and they told me I was free to think that.[/quote]

Nuclear programs for peaceful activities is good but IN MY OWN IDEA Iran doesn't need it yet . as u know nuclear programs requires a huge amount of money and Iran's regime has to spend it for people's welfare , education , health , etc ...
Islamic republic has banned many sites and BBC is also one of them . I don't know what's going behind it but Islamic republic seems so satisfied of this deal .

Reza Shah Pahlavi and his son got the power by a coup but Iran's situation got much more terrible after Islamic revolution . in fact Iran (The Great Persia) was ruined after Muslims attack to Iran and how people got Islamizated (?) .
Next election is about 3 years later . (In a country which dictatorship leads , elections don't change anything ...)

That's nice to hear that your country is free and flexible to accept you . cherish it .

Dissident.1996 wrote: Nuclear programs for peaceful activities is good but IN MY OWN IDEA Iran doesn't need it yet . as u know nuclear programs requires a huge amount of money and Iran's regime has to spend it for people's welfare , education , health , etc ...
Islamic republic has banned many sites and BBC is also one of them . I don't know what's going behind it but Islamic republic seems so satisfied of this deal .

Reza Shah Pahlavi and his son got the power by a coup but Iran's situation got much more terrible after Islamic revolution . in fact Iran (The Great Persia) was ruined after Muslims attack to Iran and how people got Islamizated (?) .
Next election is about 3 years later . (In a country which dictatorship leads , elections don't change anything ...)

That's nice to hear that your country is free and flexible to accept you . cherish it .

The Shah was a monster, and a puppet of the Western Powers. His misrule led to the Revolution. Maybe if Mohammad Mosaddegh had stayed in power his full term and Iran had kept control of its oil interests, democracy may have thrived and grown. But the Anglo/America oil interests wishing to keep Russia out of Persia led to the coup. You would have been born into a different country - one that has not suffered from sanctions. When pressed from the outside, oppression works on the inside too.

The deal is seen as something very positive here, and the rise of IS (ISIS, ISIL) in Iraq is taken as an opportunity to talk with Iran as you are against the IS. So from a bad thing some good can be found.
It is only Israel that is still making negative propaganda against Iran, and claiming that you will use nuclear weapons to support IS which is stupid. And American Conservatives who still would prefer to attack Iran because of the hostage situation back in the 1980s.

Here is a bit of BBC
The world would risk "even more war in the Middle East" without the nuclear agreement with Iran, US President Barack Obama has warned.
He challenged critics of Tuesday's deal to present a better alternative. This is seen as a veiled reference to his Republican opponents in Congress.
The UN Security Council will vote next week on a resolution endorsing the agreement, Iran says.
In return for an end to sanctions, Iran will limit its nuclear activities.
The deal, reached with six world powers in Vienna, would begin to be implemented by November, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said earlier on Wednesday.
Iran's President Hassan Rouhani said the agreement proved that "constructive engagement works".
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, meanwhile, denounced what he called a "stunning historic mistake".
'Victory for Iran'
At a news conference in Washington, President Obama said: "Without a deal, we risk even more war in the Middle East, and other countries in the Middle East would feel compelled to develop their own nuclear weapons.''
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He expressed hopes that the agreement would encourage Iran to "behave differently," citing "its support of terrorism and its use of proxies to destabilise parts of the Middle East."
Mr Obama said that the US would seek greater co-operation from Tehran on ending the wars in Syria and Yemen. But he added: "We're not betting on it.''
He also urged members of the US Congress to judge the agreement "based on the facts, not on politics".
American lawmakers have 60 days to review the deal.
The UN Security Council passed six resolutions between 2006 and 2010 requiring Iran to stop producing enriched uranium, which can be used for civilian purposes, but also to build nuclear bombs.
After returning to Tehran, Mr Zarif said: "These talks have concluded in a situation when the Security Council - for the first time in its history - will give official recognition to a developing country's enrichment programme through a resolution next week."
Diplomats told the Reuters news agency that the US would circulate a draft text on Wednesday that would terminate the previous resolutions but enshrine a mechanism for the sanctions they included to automatically "snap back" if Iran breached its commitments.
The five permanent members of the Security Council who could veto any resolution - the US, UK, France, Russia and China - were part of the so-called P5+1 group of world powers that signed the deal with Iran, along with Germany.
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"We hope that more or less within four months, measures taken by both sides show results and implementation of the deal begins," Mr Zarif said.
President Rouhani told a cabinet meeting that Iran had not "surrendered".
"The deal is a legal, technical and political victory for Iran," he said. "It's an achievement that Iran won't be called a world threat anymore."
Hours earlier, Republicans in the US Congress lined up to condemn the deal.

Hopefully Obama will get the deal through congress.

Dissident.1996 wrote:And excuse me , Where are the forum's participants mostly from ? if you know ...

Skaro. I'm surprised Hobbes didn't say lol!

Dissident.1996 wrote:And excuse me , Where are the forum's participants mostly from ? if you know ...

Welcome to the forum, and I would guess that most of the active participants are from the UK or the US. Good luck on getting good answers.

Dissident.1996 wrote:Hi everyone ...
I've newly decided to join forums in order to ask my questions and use your posts .
I was Muslim but I questioned my religion and then god and now I'm researching about God's existence though I have tendencies to Atheism and I love science and interested in philosophy .
I'll be happy if we can have conversations together , so nice to meet you all .
and a question please ... who commonly visit and participate in the topics ?
I mean if participants are philosophy students or just interested people like myself ?

By the way, Dissident, have you ever read Al-Ma'arri? You may find him of interest. I'm almost certain his writings are available.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Maʿarri