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Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:03 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
This statement sounds absurd, but consider the alternative.
Let's start with the first man/woman or a small community of human beings. Now no one is self-sufficient for basic survival (food, shelter, medicine, etc.) Let me add on the Ice Ages (last one about 10,000 years ago).
Can anyone put up an argument on how mankind progressed from the beginning?
PhilX
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:15 pm
by thedoc
I believe there is fossil evidence to the contrary, so to try to answer this statement would be a fools errand.
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:05 pm
by Skip
Can anyone put up an argument on how mankind progressed from the beginning?
How do you date a beginning?
Before homo sapiens, they were Neanderthals, Java, Australopithecus, etc. Before that, transitional hominids; before that great apes; before that, lemurs, monkeys, sloths, or whatever... and so on, back to the primordial ooze. I suppose the beginning would be the electric spark that rendered a proto-RNA replicable.
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:11 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Here's a curiosity in evolution. Our ancestors were hairier than we are today. The last Ice Age occurred about 10,000 years ago. How would mankind survive this?
PhilX
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:07 am
by Skip
By migrating south. The ice covered only the extreme northern and southern latitudes, and mountain ranges, leaving a fairly wide of habitable zone on ether side of the equator. I don't think there were any people coming north from the antipodes.
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:13 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:16 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Skip wrote:By migrating south. The ice covered only the extreme northern and southern latitudes, and mountain ranges, leaving a fairly wide of habitable zone on ether side of the equator. I don't think there were any people coming north from the antipodes.
Think about the problems of migration. Having a food source for one. Knowing where to migrate to is another problem. I can go on.
PhilX
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:23 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Follow-up question: around the time of the Ice Ages, was Homo Sapiens wearing clothing?
PhilX
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:28 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
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Can't make up your mind Bill.
PhilX
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Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:40 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:13 am
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Skip wrote:By migrating south. The ice covered only the extreme northern and southern latitudes, and mountain ranges, leaving a fairly wide of habitable zone on ether side of the equator. I don't think there were any people coming north from the antipodes.
Think about the problems of migration.
Having a food source for one. Knowing where to migrate to is another problem. I can go on.
PhilX
Not a problem, the people would have followed the herds of prey animals, and those herds would have migrated south in front of the ice sheet.
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:18 am
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Follow-up question: around the time of the Ice Ages, was Homo Sapiens wearing clothing?
PhilX
The food source, (herds of prey animals) would have provided skins with fur, that would have provided clothing against the cold. I believe that humans of the time were using skins as protection against the cold, plus fire in the shelters.
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:33 am
by Skip
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Think about the problems of migration. Having a food source for one. Knowing where to migrate to is another problem. I can go on.
PhilX
Nobody said it was easy. Yes, they wore clothing and carried the babies and supplies in back-packs. Many of the Siberian mummies are well dressed. By this time, some peoples were herding domesticated animals and there were farming settlements along the Tigris and Euphrates, in China, and Africa, with woven baskets, dugout boats and a variety of hunting weapons. This is about when North America was first occupied by the people walking across the Bering Strait and spreading out east- and southward.
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:34 am
by Philosophy Explorer
thedoc wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:Skip wrote:By migrating south. The ice covered only the extreme northern and southern latitudes, and mountain ranges, leaving a fairly wide of habitable zone on ether side of the equator. I don't think there were any people coming north from the antipodes.
Think about the problems of migration.
Having a food source for one. Knowing where to migrate to is another problem. I can go on.
PhilX
Not a problem, the people would have followed the herds of prey animals, and those herds would have migrated south in front of the ice sheet.
How would the herds have known to migrate south?
PhilX
Re: Homo Sapiens has always been around!
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:51 am
by thedoc
Philosophy Explorer wrote:thedoc wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Think about the problems of migration. Having a food source for one. Knowing where to migrate to is another problem. I can go on.
PhilX
Not a problem, the people would have followed the herds of prey animals, and those herds would have migrated south in front of the ice sheet.
How would the herds have known to migrate south?
PhilX
The same way that herds know when to migrate now, answer that question, and I'm sure there will be some kind of scientific recognition for you. Herds do it, there are a few questions, but I believe most of it is known to science. Just because you do not understand it, doesn't mean it can't happen. Years ago science didn't understand plate tectonics but it happened anyway. Are you a victim of the N.I.H. syndrome?