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The Ethics of Science

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:55 am
by Ned
So many things happened in my life that I could hardly believe, even as I was experiencing them. Two episodes stand out. The first was Neil Armstrong’s “small step” on the moon, forty years ago. It represented everything we had ever hoped for, dreamed of and didn’t quite dare to expect. A step leading us to the stars and maybe human survival.

The second was the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Centre. I felt as if I were witnessing someone walking over my grave. In those images of exploding planes and collapsing buildings, I saw the potential destruction of the human species.

Both events happened, both were a huge step in alternate directions: triumph and annihilation.

One day we may look up at the sky and see the first alien star-ship visiting us from another civilization. One day we may pick up an intelligent message from outer space, just as Carl Sagan imagined in Contact. One day we may even invent our own inter-galactic space vehicle and go for a look.

On the other hand, one day we may look up and see a mushroom-shaped cloud, for a fraction of a second, before we lose our eyes and our lives. There is a very good chance that on that day mankind will finish the job started at Hiroshima on August 6 1945, and put an end to the human saga. On that day, if there is a God, he will weep. It will have been such a horrible waste!

Which of the two alternate futures awaits us depends, to a large degree, on the scientists themselves. Not just on the breakthroughs they provide, leading us to a possible glorious future but, more importantly, on the ethical stand they take when bribed or coerced by madmen to produce weapons of mass destruction.

Without the greatest brains of the twentieth century (Einstein, Bohr, Oppenheimer, Feynman, Teller, etc.) political leaders would be more or less harmless fools. They might mess up everything they touch, but could not threaten all of humanity and every living species on the planet with extinction. It was scientists who gave them the tools of total annihilation.

No “ethics of science” course was ever taught to me as a physics student at university. Medical students now grapple with the ethics of medicine as it manifests in subjects such as cloning, euthanasia, abortion, stem-cell research and genetic manipulation. They are given a philosophical & legal framework in which to consider these issues, and guidelines for coping with them.

Nothing highlights the issue of ethics in science as well as the dilemma confronting scientists in the Manhattan Project. The justification for developing a nuclear weapon seemed overwhelming. None of those great scientists contributing to it were evil or greedy monsters. What they were is unbelievably naïve. We can see from their writings after the atomic bomb became a reality and they felt horrified by what they had done and scrambled to influence national policy in a positive direction.

After the Nagasaki bombing, members of the Scientific Panel – Lawrence, Oppenheimer, Compton, Fermi -- wrote a letter to Henry Stimson, Secretary of War on August 17, 1945:
The development, in the years to come, of more effective atomic weapons, would appear to be most natural element in any national policy of maintaining our military forces at great strength; nevertheless we have grave doubts that this further development can contribute essentially or permanently to the prevention of war.


Robert Oppenheimer expressed his fears more forcefully on his last day as director of the Manhattan Project:
If atomic bombs are to be added as new weapons to the arsenals of a warring world, or to the arsenals of nations preparing for war, then the time will come when mankind will curse the name of Los Alamos and Hiroshima.
What scientists should never forget: the arbiter of any theory is experiment. Arguments aside, the world did not face total destruction before nuclear weapons were developed. Now it does.

As Richard Rodes writes in The Making of the Atomic Bomb:
…the death machine that we have installed in our midst will destroy the nation-state, ours and our rival’s along with most of the rest of the human world. The weapons with which the superpowers have armed themselves – collectively the equivalent of more than one million Hiroshimas – are linked together through their warning systems into a hair-trigger, feedback-looped contrivance, and no human contrivance has ever worked perfectly nor ever will. Each side is hostage to the other side’s errors. The clock ticks. Accidents happen.
Nothing will change this fact! Yes, the war might have lasted longer without it. Yes, there might have been another world war or two without the nuclear deterrent, instead of the many, many small wars all over the world that have killed millions since WWII. But humanity would not face the possibility of extinction today if scientists refused to participate in that ‘superb and magnificent’ project of evil and insanity.

The ethical precept that should be taught to science students all over the world, should be the same as that of the Hippocratic Oath for medical students: “First, do no harm!” Say no to weapons research, say no to projects that harm the environment, that cause pain and suffering to life on this planet. Nothing can be simpler.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:27 am
by prof
Good job, Ned !

Did you know that the principle "Do no harm" follows from the premiss "People are valuable"? This is true by the Definition of "Ethics" in the paradigm I have entitled 'ETHICS FOR THE 21st CENTURY.' Did you read, at the Ethical Theory forum here, the thread The case for Ethics. ...or in the booklet BASIC ETHICS, pp. 13-18 - http://tinyurl.com/mfcgzfz - the chapter, What is Ethics?

Once that premiss is acceptable, namely, that you, an individual, has some value, and that you are no more special than anyone else, then lots of policy positions follow directly from that. Not bombing anyone, even with conventional - non-atomic - weapons, would be one example. [If one has humility, that is to say s/he does not suffer from arrogance, then one will admit that s/he is not more special than anyone else. Ethics recommends humility.] See the concept rankism on the internet. Rankism is one of the Ethical fallacies, as explained in this new paradigm. {See Katz - A Unified Theory of Ethics for details on the fallacies.] Also see pp. 33-35 in BASIC ETHICS.

References:
LIVING THE GOOD LIFE http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... _Lifef.pdf

A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHIChttp://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/A%20UNIFIED%20 ... THICS.pdfS
A booklet written in dialogue form. is the first of four parts. The other three parts are :

ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... NTURES.pdf

ETHICAL EXPLORATIONS - http://tinyurl.com/22ohd2x

for M.C. Katz -ASPECTS OF ETHICS
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/Aspects of Ethics .pdf

To avoid technicalities once you Google this textbook you may skip to page 20. Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course.
http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... Course.pdf



Comments?

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 1:23 pm
by Ned
prof wrote:Good job, Ned !

Did you know that the principle "Do no harm" follows from the premiss "People are valuable"? This is true by the Definition of "Ethics" in the paradigm I have entitled 'ETHICS FOR THE 21st CENTURY.' Did you read, at the Ethical Theory forum here, the thread The case for Ethics. ...or in the booklet BASIC ETHICS, pp. 13-18 - http://tinyurl.com/mfcgzfz - the chapter, What is Ethics?

Once that premiss is acceptable, namely, that you, an individual, has some value, and that you are no more special than anyone else, then lots of policy positions follow directly from that. Not bombing anyone, even with conventional - non-atomic - weapons, would be one example. [If one has humility, that is to say s/he does not suffer from arrogance, then one will admit that s/he is not more special than anyone else. Ethics recommends humility.] See the concept rankism on the internet. Rankism is one of the Ethical fallacies, as explained in this new paradigm. {See Katz - A Unified Theory of Ethics for details on the fallacies.] Also see pp. 33-35 in BASIC ETHICS.

References:
LIVING THE GOOD LIFE http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... _Lifef.pdf

A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHIChttp://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/A%20UNIFIED%20 ... THICS.pdfS
A booklet written in dialogue form. is the first of four parts. The other three parts are :

ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... NTURES.pdf

ETHICAL EXPLORATIONS - http://tinyurl.com/22ohd2x

for M.C. Katz -ASPECTS OF ETHICS
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/Aspects of Ethics .pdf

To avoid technicalities once you Google this textbook you may skip to page 20. Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course.
http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/ ... Course.pdf



Comments?
prof, thank you for the compliment, I will explore the links you provided and will comment later. :)

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:08 pm
by Ned
Prof, I have read your "What is Ethics?" chapter and I find it very well written. Especially the statement the "When we believe that every person has "a story to tell" we have entered the field of Ethics".

It is also related to the concepts of compassion and empathy that regards the individual as an actor in a cause-and-effect chain.

Expressed in another way (I hop you don't mind poetry):

Hate and Compassion

We may think our hate avenges some victim,
rights some wrong,
balances an evil,
we may believe our cause is just
and we have to hurt those back
who hurt us.

But, sooner or later,
we grow tired of anger and hate
(it takes so much out of us)
and search for redeeming factors,
excuses and circumstances
to spare us the tear and wear
of destructive emotions.

Admit it, old chap,
you have slowed down, mellowed,
do everything now with new-found moderation:
your love is a warm, autumn glow,
your appetite is not ravenous,
and your capacity for hate
is seriously diminished.

Now you make excuses
for villains you hated before,
you tell yourself:
we are all victims here,
one way or another,
there is no original sin -
we were all dear babies once.

Luck influences who you’ve become:
smart or stupid,
healthy or sick,
good or evil -
something must have made you one
or the other -
we must never stop thinking
of causes and effects.

If you can maintain this vision,
this tolerance, this understanding,
then your anger yields to pity, sorrow
for all victims of the human condition -
your heart will find peace
in serenity, acceptance,
compassion.

But, alas,
so many of us can not forgive,
piling pain upon pain,
death upon death...
...victims victimizing,
infinitely, relentlessly,
and thus hate is perpetuated
until love has finally lost,
until hate has consumed all its fuel:
the last of us.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 4:08 pm
by Starfall
I do not think that weapons of mass destruction are evil. "Evil" and "good" are, by their nature, not adjectives that can be applied to objects. However, any object can be used in a way that is good or evil; even weapons of mass destruction. Imagine a scenario where a large meteorite is headed for the Earth, say, 100 years from now. If we have nuclear weapons many times more powerful than the ones we have today in our possession, then it would be possible for us to throw the meteorite off course or even destroy it completely. In a way, the "weapon of mass destruction" would become the savior of the human race. Likewise, it can also be used in a future world war, resulting in unbelievable collateral damage or even the end of humanity. Hence, I do not think that the weapons of mass destruction are the real issue. The ethical implications of the human species possessing such destructive power are immense, but that is not the topic of this thread.

No scientific invention or idea is inherently good or evil; those adjectives can only describe how they are used by us. If we are afraid of the possibility that an invention can be used to do evil and stop our research in those areas, then science would not go a step forward from where it is today. As is often said, "Guns don't kill people, people do." The solution to this problem isn't to stop making guns, but to resolve the issues that cause people to kill one another. The fact that the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima is neither the fault of the scientists who made it, nor the fault of the politicians who decided that it should be dropped there. The reason is that dropping the bomb was a decision dictated by the dynamics of world politics at the time. Politicians are responsible for making the best decisions for the country under the conditions the world is in at that moment, and that is exactly what Harry Truman did. The true fault lies deep within our understanding of social order - and it can't be pinned on anyone else. As long as you try to take shortcuts around this problem such as stopping scientific research or production in "dangerous" areas, the problem will only ingrain itself further in our social order and become more difficult to solve.

In essence, producing a nuclear weapon and using it are entirely different things, and although scientists would do good by knowing about the ethical implications of their inventions, that alone is nowhere near enough to resolve the problem.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 4:27 pm
by Ned
Starfall wrote:In essence, producing a nuclear weapon and using it are entirely different things, and although scientists would do good by knowing about the ethical implications of their inventions, that alone is nowhere near enough to resolve the problem.
Starfall, I agree with this last sentiment.

However, there are so many other scientific research and inventions that can ONLY be used in a destructive way.

Lot of research goes into torture methods, techniques and instruments. Cruise missiles won't deflect meteors. Remote control drones do only one thing: kill and destroy. Crowd control devices (like those that shatter your eardrums) are less than benevolent inventions. Landmines have no useful applications other than blowing arms and legs off children all over the world. I could go on, but you get the point.

All of these and a lot more are developed by scientists, with a lot of ingenuity and determination.

As I said: justifications are dime a dozen and the fight always started when the 'other guy' hit me back.

It is true: guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

However, I wish Colonel Colt had gone into manufacturing something else, like safety pins.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 4:39 pm
by Starfall
I do not think that the things you listed (landmines, cruise missiles, torture devices etc.) are scientific inventions. They are applications of existing scientific concepts, and I would say they are specific constructions of a more general invention - practical inventions. A landmine is simply a specific application of the chemical combustion mechanisms invented by scientists, for instance. Scientists do not produce landmines, engineers do - and that makes all the difference in the world. Practical inventions can certainly be good or evil because they are created with that intent. If I create something with the intention of using it for evil, then that thing can be called evil. However, scientists hold no such sentiments (or at least, they shouldn't.) They research for the sake of expanding human understanding of the universe, and their inventions are hence neutral by nature. In general, scientific inventions have no specific purpose, whereas practical inventions always do. Because of this, we can judge practical inventions as "good" or "evil" by judging their purpose of creation.

Gunpowder is a scientific invention, and is completely neutral. However, guns that make use of gunpowder are practical inventions designed for the purpose of killing stuff. In that sense, a more accurate phrasing of the common saying is actually "Gunpowder doesn't kill people, people produce guns with it and then use them to do so." That doesn't quite have the catch to it though, which is why I refrained from stating it that way :P

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:52 pm
by Ned
Starfall wrote:Scientists do not produce landmines, engineers do - and that makes all the difference in the world. Practical inventions can certainly be good or evil because they are created with that intent. If I create something with the intention of using it for evil, then that thing can be called evil. However, scientists hold no such sentiments. They research for the sake of expanding human understanding of the universe, and their inventions are hence neutral by nature. In general, scientific inventions have no specific purpose, whereas practical inventions always do. Because of this, we can judge practical inventions as "good" or "evil" by judging their purpose of creation.

Gunpowder is a scientific invention, and is completely neutral. However, guns that make use of gunpowder are practical inventions designed for the purpose of killing stuff. In that sense, a more accurate phrasing of the common saying is actually "Gunpowder doesn't kill people, people produce guns with it and then use them to do so." That doesn't quite have the catch to it though, which is why I refrained from stating it that way :P
It is a fine line between scientists and engineers. Many scientists do both.Many scientists actively engage to use their talent actively in war for the purpose of killing large number of people. Fritz Haber comes to mind.
In his studies of the effects of poison gas, Haber noted that exposure to a low concentration of a poisonous gas for a long time often had the same effect (death) as exposure to a high concentration for a short time. He formulated a simple mathematical relationship between the gas concentration and the necessary exposure time. This relationship became known as Haber's rule. Haber defended gas warfare against accusations that it was inhumane, saying that death was death, by whatever means it was inflicted. During the 1920s, scientists working at his institute developed the cyanide gas formulation Zyklon A, which was used as an insecticide, especially as a fumigant in grain stores.
The Manhattan project was mostly an engineering challenge, because the science was already well understood. Yet, most of the great scientists eagerly participated in it.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:08 pm
by Starfall
In that, you are correct. They most likely viewed it as a challenge, as an opportunity to convert the science of the 20th century into a material object. They would most likely never get their hands on such resources again, so I can understand why most of them jumped at the opportunity. While the intention is pure, they were (as you said) incredibly naive in believing that it would stop at that. I doubt anyone who worked in the Project was in it with the mentality "I do not care if millions of people die, I just want my money." They simply failed to predict the horrors this would cause, or perhaps, they deliberately tried not to think of it - as the prospect was dreadful. Oppenheimer's remark that it brought the words "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." to mind is a very good example of this.

The scientists working in the Manhattan Project were all there for the sake of science, for the sake of seeing an application of the theory they have worked on for so long. Had they been more aware of the consequences, of the ethical implications of what they were doing, they might have exercised restraint in developing such a dangerous weapon. However, as I stated in my previous post, that does not solve the problem. It would only have delayed it by some years, and I imagine the horrors America would unleash onto Japan had they refused to surrender could be much worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki (The U.S. War Department estimated at least 10 million Japanese casualties in a possible mainland invasion.)

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:23 pm
by Ned
Human beings are very good at compartmentalizing conflicting ideas. One reason why many world class scientists were (and still are) religious. Maxwell and Faraday come to mind. However, it is willful compartmentalizing in many cases.

I am sure the thousands of scientists, engineers and technicians had no doubt about the effect of nuclear blast on human flesh.

The American people came to a shocking realization when the photo of the naked girl running, screaming, from her burning village in Vietnam was published. Why the shock? They knew about carpet bombing -- what did they think the bombs did to people?

German citizens did not want to know about the death camps, even though they could see the trains jammed full with human flesh wound their way into the camps, day after day, never any coming out. They complained enough about the smell of burning flesh from the crematoriums blanketing the countryside in the vicinity.

So many people just don't want to know because, as Al Gore said: it is an inconvenient truth.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:44 pm
by Starfall
Exactly. People avoid truths that are in conflict with their own conception of the world. That way, they can prevent a rise in cognitive dissonance. However, eventually there comes a time when they are no longer able to avoid the truth and have to confront it. When that happens, they shatter under the dissonance they had been avoiding so far. Simply pretending that a cruel truth isn't there doesn't make it go away - the world is not that merciful.

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:33 pm
by Ned
Starfall wrote: However, eventually there comes a time when they are no longer able to avoid the truth and have to confront it. When that happens, they shatter under the dissonance they had been avoiding so far. Simply pretending that a cruel truth isn't there doesn't make it go away - the world is not that merciful.
Any prognosis on that, Starfall? :P

Re: The Ethics of Science

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:50 am
by Genro
‘The scientists working in the Manhattan Project were all there for the sake of science, for the sake of seeing an application of the theory they have worked on for so long. Had they been more aware of the consequences, of the ethical implications of what they were doing, they might have exercised restraint in developing such a dangerous weapon.’ (Starfall)

There were for some an unease if not a foreboding of the consequences.
True patriotism or obligation came into conflict with the ethics of what to do. The ethical path in times of world instability is some times a difficult one to take.

Much has been written about Heisenberg’s involvement and motives during the last war but less regarding Yoshio Nishina. Both were students of Niels Bohr and both were drawn into the development of an atomic bomb. Such a weapon could only be an anathema to those involved in the physics of the time.
Both evoked the idea of such a bomb being impractically heavy.
Heisenberg’s estimate of a weight of 10 tons, though Otto Hahn reminded him otherwise, is parallel by Nishina’s approach as in his statement to Gen. Nobu-uji.
“ the weight is so enormous that (as a bomb) it is viewed as not suitable “.

The Manhattan project was hailed as a great success but I think the dividing line between success and failure is not as obvious as it may appear.