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All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:28 pm
by bobevenson
As it says in Revelation 17:17 (a chapter-and-verse description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns), "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:59 pm
by David Handeye
Actually that's the right contrary of what you wrote: all religious directives, commandments and decrees, the Law, are correct, are valid; as God, God Himself, has put in their minds His design, as to this design of His own was to be fulfilled. His design was just this one, so the Word is on its way.
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:32 pm
by ReliStuPhD
bobevenson wrote:As it says in Revelation 17:17 (a chapter-and-verse description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns), "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."
Not sure how you get the title from this verse. Could you elaborate?
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:45 pm
by bobevenson
ReliStuPhD wrote:bobevenson wrote:As it says in Revelation 17:17 (a chapter-and-verse description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns), "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."
Not sure how you get the title from this verse. Could you elaborate?
As it says in "The Ouzo Prophecy" (see http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf), "The evil that lurks in the minds of men is manifested in the collective evil of the beast. Understand the man and you cannot be deceived by his institutions." In other words, look to your heart instead of your religious institutions for guidance.
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:17 pm
by ReliStuPhD
One of my favorite phrases in that 'treatise': "Serious Biblical scholars, including top Hollywood producers..." Because "top hollywood producers" is a subset of "serious Biblical scholars."
EDIT: Looks like I'm not the only one.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringo ... phecy.html
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:50 pm
by bobevenson
ReliStuPhD wrote:One of my favorite phrases in that 'treatise': "Serious Biblical scholars, including top Hollywood producers..." Because "top hollywood producers" is a subset of "serious Biblical scholars."
EDIT: Looks like I'm not the only one.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringo ... phecy.html
When I wrote that phrase, I immediately stopped to question it. I said to myself, "That's a very strange thing to say," but after reflecting on it for a few seconds, I came to the conclusion it was exactly what I wanted to say without any further thought or reflection. Much later, after the paper was completed, I saw it as a ploy with two possible interpretations. First, the definition of "serious Biblical scholars" had to be expanded to allow for the "venal carbon atom of life" interpretation that was actually suggested by a numerologist. Secondly, it could be a comment that "serious Biblical scholars" aren't any more qualified to make these interpretations than Hollywood movie producers. Notice that I used the word "Hollywood" instead of "world" or "international," "movie" instead of "film" or "cinema," and "producers" instead of "directors" or "playwrights" ( I always think of producers as fat guys smoking stogies behind huge mahogany desks).
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:29 pm
by thedoc
bobevenson wrote: ( I always think of producers as fat guys smoking stogies behind huge mahogany desks)
I can see how these guys would be eminently qualified to judge the veracity of your theology.
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:25 pm
by bobevenson
thedoc wrote:bobevenson wrote: ( I always think of producers as fat guys smoking stogies behind huge mahogany desks)
I can see how these guys would be eminently qualified to judge the veracity of your theology.
Even more eminently qualified would be a spokesman for the conservative Spiritual Counterfeits Project (see http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/spiritual ... rfeits.pdf).
Re: All Religious Directives, Commandments and Decrees Are Invalid
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:39 pm
by ianrust
Paul mentions this somewhere. To the effect of how do we know that God did not design such vessels, withstanding them in longsuffering, so that they may fulfill their purpose of destruction to his greater glory? And yet it also says 'it is not your fathers will that any one of these little ones perish'. Considering that belief is self-justifying, and that the only crime that is unforgivable are crimes against the holy spirit; a final rejection of the spirit of God, I can make reconcile the passages. For those who do reject God with finality, by their own will, And God having foreknowledge of this; yet not wishing it; nonetheless God may then use them for the glory of those who are his own.