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Here are some imagined responses and my replies to them to show you what my firm and strict attitude is in life regarding suffering and problems. It is my attitude regarding if I were to have a major problem in life. Therefore, here are some imagined responses and my replies to them to show you what my attitude is:

Response: You know, life can be a fucking dick sometimes and you are just going to have to learn and accept your absence of pleasure or any other major problem for that matter.

My Reply: Then I will take an epic sword and slice that dick off. I refuse to deal with any major life-threating problem in my life and I refuse to accept it.

Response: If life gives you lemons, then I'm afraid you are just going to have to quit whining and make lemonade.

My Reply: Then I will take those lemons, throw them on the ground, and smash them instead. I refuse to deal with any major life-threating problem in my life and I refuse to accept it.

Response: I'm afraid that life is just a bitch, then you die.

My Reply: Then I will take a knife, go over to that bitche's house, and stab her to death. I refuse to live a life being intimidated and mocked by her. I will only choose to live the free life I want to live. If anyone disrespects that and gives me problems, then they die. As I said before and will say it here again, I refuse to deal with any major life-threating problem in my life and I refuse to accept it.

Response: I'm afraid you can neither slice that dick off, smash those lemons, or stab that bitch. They are just things you are going to have to live with and accept.

My Reply: Then I will take my life right then and there. I might not be able to literally put an end to those things if I were to choose to live, but I can put an end to them by taking them down with me. I can put an end to their mockery of me once and for all. If they wish to stop mocking me and giving me problems, then they will obey me. If they so value their precious lives, then they will obey me and allow me to live the life I truly want to live. Otherwise, they die along with me.

Finally, now that you've read those responses and my replies to them, you can now see what my attitude in life is. Also, I realize that problems are not actual entities and that they cannot mock you and I know that they don't have lives either. I am just simply giving a metaphorical speech here that shows how I feel about life anyway.

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MozartLink wrote:Finally, now that you've read those responses and my replies to them, you can now see what my attitude in life is.

I can see. Your attitude in life is making questions and giving answers by yourself. Honestly, I have nothing to learn from someone like you.

MozartLink wrote:Here are some imagined responses and my replies to them to show you what my firm and strict attitude is in life regarding suffering and problems. It is my attitude regarding if I were to have a major problem in life. Therefore, here are some imagined responses and my replies to them to show you what my attitude is:

Response: You know, life can be a fucking dick sometimes and you are just going to have to learn and accept your absence of pleasure or any other major problem for that matter.

My Reply: Then I will take an epic sword and slice that dick off. I refuse to deal with any major life-threating problem in my life and I refuse to accept it.

Response: If life gives you lemons, then I'm afraid you are just going to have to quit whining and make lemonade.

My Reply: Then I will take those lemons, throw them on the ground, and smash them instead. I refuse to deal with any major life-threating problem in my life and I refuse to accept it.

Response: I'm afraid that life is just a bitch, then you die.

My Reply: Then I will take a knife, go over to that bitche's house, and stab her to death. I refuse to live a life being intimidated and mocked by her. I will only choose to live the free life I want to live. If anyone disrespects that and gives me problems, then they die. As I said before and will say it here again, I refuse to deal with any major life-threating problem in my life and I refuse to accept it.

Response: I'm afraid you can neither slice that dick off, smash those lemons, or stab that bitch. They are just things you are going to have to live with and accept.

My Reply: Then I will take my life right then and there. I might not be able to literally put an end to those things if I were to choose to live, but I can put an end to them by taking them down with me. I can put an end to their mockery of me once and for all. If they wish to stop mocking me and giving me problems, then they will obey me. If they so value their precious lives, then they will obey me and allow me to live the life I truly want to live. Otherwise, they die along with me.

Finally, now that you've read those responses and my replies to them, you can now see what my attitude in life is. Also, I realize that problems are not actual entities and that they cannot mock you and I know that they don't have lives either. I am just simply giving a metaphorical speech here that shows how I feel about life anyway.

Hmm, talks about slicing off penises over and over, seems to have jealous feelings towards women. Repressed transsexual, I bet.

Anyhoo, when you want to get to work on some serious problems and stop PMSing, let me know.

In the event that we have major problems that can never recover, then we should all just kill ourselves since we would be nothing more than malfunctioning machines that need to be thrown and tossed away into the metal scraps.

MozartLink wrote:In the event that we have major problems that can never recover, then we should all just kill ourselves since we would be nothing more than malfunctioning machines that need to be thrown and tossed away into the metal scraps.

Already thought of that but it won't work. I realize life is a bad thing. Since babies tend to be blissful the logical thing would be to get rid of them before they mature. However if we do that they can't reproduce, the species will become extinct. Then the planet would be dominated by a new dominant species, who is just as ignorant as the humans, possibly worse. Destroying the planet is a fool's bet as well, we could reincarnate on an alien world just as stupid. It would be foolish killing yourself at this stage before acquiring all there is to learn.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

MozartLink wrote:In the event that we have major problems that can never recover, then we should all just kill ourselves since we would be nothing more than malfunctioning machines that need to be thrown and tossed away into the metal scraps.

Already thought of that but it won't work. I realize life is a bad thing. Since babies tend to be blissful the logical thing would be to get rid of them before they mature. However if we do that they can't reproduce, the species will become extinct. Then the planet would be dominated by a new dominant species, who is just as ignorant as the humans, possibly worse. Destroying the planet is a fool's bet as well, we could reincarnate on an alien world just as stupid. It would be foolish killing yourself at this stage before acquiring all there is to learn.

I do not care. We should just do it anyway since we are unable to live the lives we truly wanted to live. Starving people in Africa and patients with cancer are going through the worst suffering and are unable to live the free blissful lives they want. Therefore, just for that very reason alone, they should all end their lives. With my absence of pleasure, this is not the life I wanted to live at all. Therefore, I should just end it in the event that my pleasure doesn't seem to recover. This is because I find no value whatsoever in a life without pleasure. I do not care how much I have helped others out in life and I don't care how much great things I did in my life despite my absence of pleasure. My life, to me, would still be of no good value whatsoever without my pleasure.

MozartLink wrote:

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

MozartLink wrote:In the event that we have major problems that can never recover, then we should all just kill ourselves since we would be nothing more than malfunctioning machines that need to be thrown and tossed away into the metal scraps.

Already thought of that but it won't work. I realize life is a bad thing. Since babies tend to be blissful the logical thing would be to get rid of them before they mature. However if we do that they can't reproduce, the species will become extinct. Then the planet would be dominated by a new dominant species, who is just as ignorant as the humans, possibly worse. Destroying the planet is a fool's bet as well, we could reincarnate on an alien world just as stupid. It would be foolish killing yourself at this stage before acquiring all there is to learn.

I do not care. We should just do it anyway since we are unable to live the lives we truly wanted to live. Starving people in Africa and patients with cancer are going through the worst suffering and are unable to live the free blissful lives they want. Therefore, just for that very reason alone, they should all end their lives. With my absence of pleasure, this is not the life I wanted to live at all. Therefore, I should just end it in the event that my pleasure doesn't seem to recover.

Simplistic way to go about it. How do you know that when you die you won't reincarnate into another life which you would deem "crappy? The point I have been trying to say is there is a reason people don't seek a medicine which makes them permanently smiles, and laughing, we call that joker-toxin and happiness is suffering as well. So sit tight in your miserable existence until we get this sorted out.

I also forgot, the baby thing wouldn't work for another reason. Humans are born miserable, babies whine and cry every two seconds. Humans are born miserable and they die miserable. Your best bet is to start tampering with Human DNA.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Simplistic way to go about it. How do you know that when you die you won't reincarnate into another life which you would deem "crappy? The point I have been trying to say is there is a reason people don't seek a medicine which makes them permanently smiles, and laughing, we call that joker-toxin and happiness is suffering as well. So sit tight in your miserable existence until we get this sorted out.

I have a firm and strong personal value and belief that says that feelings of pleasure in of themselves are never suffering. For example, if I were to somehow live an an eternal life of pleasure, then I would never go bored or insane from living such a life. It would be the perfect life for me since it is the only greatest life to me there is. Therefore, I see no suffering whatsoever in my situation of living in eternal bliss.

One more thing I would like to say here in this post is that I find no value whatsoever in a life without pleasure. I do not care how much I have helped others out in life and I don't care how much great things I did in my life despite my absence of pleasure. My life, to me, would still be of no good value whatsoever without my pleasure.

MozartLink wrote:

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Simplistic way to go about it. How do you know that when you die you won't reincarnate into another life which you would deem "crappy? The point I have been trying to say is there is a reason people don't seek a medicine which makes them permanently smiles, and laughing, we call that joker-toxin and happiness is suffering as well. So sit tight in your miserable existence until we get this sorted out.

I have a firm and strong personal value and belief that says that feelings of pleasure in of themselves are never suffering. For example, if I were to somehow live an an eternal life of pleasure, then I would never go bored or insane from living such a life. It would be the perfect life for me since it is the only greatest life to me there is. Therefore, I see no suffering whatsoever in my situation of living in eternal bliss.

One more thing I would like to say here in this post is that I find no value whatsoever in a life without pleasure. I do not care how much I have helped others out in life and I don't care how much great things I did in my life despite my absence of pleasure. My life, to me, would still be of no good value whatsoever without my pleasure.

Mozart such a thing is a fantasy. It cannot be sustained. If I were to give you a life of all smiles you would get tired of it fast. If I were to force food down your throat you'd get tired of it fast. If you had luxury and smiles 24/7 you'd reject it soon enough.

That's why I told you, your best bet is to start modifying the human DNA, the human body naturally rejects any kind of sustained pleasure. Question is does the human body do so, or is this trait inherent to all forms of existence, including spiritual. Such a thing would explain why God types would create such a shitty world, similar to how the Matrix creators created a shitty world because even God types got sick of their pleasure.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

MozartLink wrote:

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Simplistic way to go about it. How do you know that when you die you won't reincarnate into another life which you would deem "crappy? The point I have been trying to say is there is a reason people don't seek a medicine which makes them permanently smiles, and laughing, we call that joker-toxin and happiness is suffering as well. So sit tight in your miserable existence until we get this sorted out.

I have a firm and strong personal value and belief that says that feelings of pleasure in of themselves are never suffering. For example, if I were to somehow live an an eternal life of pleasure, then I would never go bored or insane from living such a life. It would be the perfect life for me since it is the only greatest life to me there is. Therefore, I see no suffering whatsoever in my situation of living in eternal bliss.

One more thing I would like to say here in this post is that I find no value whatsoever in a life without pleasure. I do not care how much I have helped others out in life and I don't care how much great things I did in my life despite my absence of pleasure. My life, to me, would still be of no good value whatsoever without my pleasure.

Mozart such a thing is a fantasy. It cannot be sustained. If I were to give you a life of all smiles you would get tired of it fast. If I were to force food down your throat you'd get tired of it fast. If you had luxury and smiles 24/7 you'd reject it soon enough.

That's why I told you, your best bet is to start modifying the human DNA, the human body naturally rejects any kind of sustained pleasure. Question is does the human body do so, or is this trait inherent to all forms of existence, including spiritual. Such a thing would explain why God types would create such a shitty world, similar to how the Matrix creators created a shitty world because even God types got sick of their pleasure.

You tell me to live to do something intelligent and scientific such as modifying human DNA. But like I just said before, without my pleasure, then that is nothing good to me. I have just clearly stated that me living to do anything in my life without my pleasure would still deem me and my life to be of no good value whatsoever.

Also, I do not believe that I would ever grow tired of such an ideal life of pure bliss if such a life were to ever be given to me. This is because I detest this life of suffering, mortality, and absence of pleasure so much that I would be perfectly fine living an eternal life of pure pleasure. Both my immense value towards such a perfect blissful life and my immense hatred towards this life of suffering/absence of pleasure is what would allow me to never tire of living in a perfect eternal blissful life.

One more thing here I would like to say in this post is that I am an atheist as I said before. I do not believe that there is any afterlife of eternal pleasure as a reward for my worthless inferior life of no pleasure. Therefore, this is an even further reason for me to end my inferior worthless life.

MozartLink wrote:
You tell me to live to do something intelligent and scientific such as modifying human DNA. But like I just said before, without my pleasure, then that is nothing good to me. I have just clearly stated that me living to do anything in my life without my pleasure would still deem me and my life to be of no good value whatsoever.

Also, I do not believe that I would ever grow tired of such an ideal life of pure bliss if such a life were to ever be given to me. This is because I detest this life of suffering, mortality, and absence of pleasure so much that I would be perfectly fine living an eternal life of pure pleasure. Both my immense value towards such a perfect blissful life and my immense hatred towards this life of suffering/absence of pleasure is what would allow me to never tire of living in a perfect eternal blissful life.

One more thing here I would like to say in this post is that I am an atheist as I said before. I do not believe that there is any afterlife of eternal pleasure as a reward for my worthless inferior life of no pleasure. Therefore, this is an even further reason for me to end my inferior worthless life.

For realsies? You experiment with your own DNA, you fix yourself how you want to be. Though I doubt you'll ever be satisfied.

As for atheism, it's got nothing to do with it. I don't see how believing in nothing actually gaurantees you'll either become nothing, or become something pleasurable in the next life. It's putting faith in suicide, just as silly as religious zealots but with a label of atheist on top. Like a cheap wine with fancy lettering.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

MozartLink wrote:
You tell me to live to do something intelligent and scientific such as modifying human DNA. But like I just said before, without my pleasure, then that is nothing good to me. I have just clearly stated that me living to do anything in my life without my pleasure would still deem me and my life to be of no good value whatsoever.

Also, I do not believe that I would ever grow tired of such an ideal life of pure bliss if such a life were to ever be given to me. This is because I detest this life of suffering, mortality, and absence of pleasure so much that I would be perfectly fine living an eternal life of pure pleasure. Both my immense value towards such a perfect blissful life and my immense hatred towards this life of suffering/absence of pleasure is what would allow me to never tire of living in a perfect eternal blissful life.

One more thing here I would like to say in this post is that I am an atheist as I said before. I do not believe that there is any afterlife of eternal pleasure as a reward for my worthless inferior life of no pleasure. Therefore, this is an even further reason for me to end my inferior worthless life.

For realsies? You experiment with your own DNA, you fix yourself how you want to be. Though I doubt you'll ever be satisfied.

As for atheism, it's got nothing to do with it. I don't see how believing in nothing actually gaurantees you'll either become nothing, or become something pleasurable in the next life. It's putting faith in suicide, just as silly as religious zealots but with a label of atheist on top. Like a cheap wine with fancy lettering.

If there were such a way to eliminate my absence of pleasure, then I would live to have that done on me. But there is just simply no way that is ever going to happen in my lifetime. We are far from even beginning to have a cure for depression/absence of pleasure and it would take perhaps thousands of years and that would be providing if such a thing could ever be done at all.

MozartLink wrote:

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

MozartLink wrote:
You tell me to live to do something intelligent and scientific such as modifying human DNA. But like I just said before, without my pleasure, then that is nothing good to me. I have just clearly stated that me living to do anything in my life without my pleasure would still deem me and my life to be of no good value whatsoever.

Also, I do not believe that I would ever grow tired of such an ideal life of pure bliss if such a life were to ever be given to me. This is because I detest this life of suffering, mortality, and absence of pleasure so much that I would be perfectly fine living an eternal life of pure pleasure. Both my immense value towards such a perfect blissful life and my immense hatred towards this life of suffering/absence of pleasure is what would allow me to never tire of living in a perfect eternal blissful life.

One more thing here I would like to say in this post is that I am an atheist as I said before. I do not believe that there is any afterlife of eternal pleasure as a reward for my worthless inferior life of no pleasure. Therefore, this is an even further reason for me to end my inferior worthless life.

For realsies? You experiment with your own DNA, you fix yourself how you want to be. Though I doubt you'll ever be satisfied.

As for atheism, it's got nothing to do with it. I don't see how believing in nothing actually gaurantees you'll either become nothing, or become something pleasurable in the next life. It's putting faith in suicide, just as silly as religious zealots but with a label of atheist on top. Like a cheap wine with fancy lettering.

If there were such a way to eliminate my absence of pleasure, then I would live to have that done on me. But there is just simply no way that is ever going to happen in my lifetime. We are far from even beginning to have a cure for depression/absence of pleasure and it would take perhaps thousands of years and that would be providing if such a thing could ever be done at all.

60 years ago i didn't think the computer would be made. Just you wait.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:60 years ago i didn't think the computer would be made. Just you wait.

It's not worth waiting that long at all. Not even if it was just 20 years that they would find a cure.