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This is a very complicated question that involves both reason and emotion. I'm not sure there is an answer, but you can try if you like.

PhilX

Mankind is an abstraction; it is not moral or immoral. Human beings can be either moral or immoral in their acts.

Mankind is an apelike creature. It does what monkeys do, only every now and then, it does so only in a more time-consuming, large, complex, gigantic, roundabout way. There is no use trying to communicate with some of the apes. Other apes can, after some time, become aware of their ape-like nature.

Trixie said:

"Other apes can, after some time, become aware of their ape-like nature."

Are there any scientific studies that show this or is this your personal opinion?

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Trixie said:

"Other apes can, after some time, become aware of their ape-like nature."

Are there any scientific studies that show this or is this your personal opinion?

PhilX

I don't need chimps in lab coats to show me studies. There are some humans out there who realize they are just chimps, while other humans continue to act like chimps yet say they are not at all.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Trixie said:

"Other apes can, after some time, become aware of their ape-like nature."

Are there any scientific studies that show this or is this your personal opinion?

PhilX

I don't need chimps in lab coats to show me studies. There are some humans out there who realize they are just chimps, while other humans continue to act like chimps yet say they are not at all.

So all we have is your opinion to go by.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Trixie said:

"Other apes can, after some time, become aware of their ape-like nature."

Are there any scientific studies that show this or is this your personal opinion?

PhilX

I don't need chimps in lab coats to show me studies. There are some humans out there who realize they are just chimps, while other humans continue to act like chimps yet say they are not at all.

So all we have is your opinion to go by.

PhilX

No, all one need do is venture outdoors and experience human culture. They can also watch videos of chimpanzees to compare. Not much different at all. Some chimps are actually better at videogames than some sapiens. Only difference is chimps are slightly less annoying to be around because they don't babble on about coffee and trivia about their meaningless social lives, lame novelties and boring activities. Walking down the street, usually when they are in groups, you can often hear their monkey battle cry.

Trixie said:

"Other apes can, after some time, become aware of their ape-like nature."

Are there any scientific studies that show this or is this your personal opinion?

PhilX[/quote]

I don't need chimps in lab coats to show me studies. There are some humans out there who realize they are just chimps, while other humans continue to act like chimps yet say they are not at all.[/quote]

So all we have is your opinion to go by.

PhilX[/quote]

No, all one need do is venture outdoors and experience human culture. They can also watch videos of chimpanzees to compare. Not much different at all. Some chimps are actually better at videogames than some sapiens. Only difference is chimps are slightly less annoying to be around because they don't babble on about coffee and trivia about their meaningless lives.[/quote]

So how do you know that apes can be aware of their "ape-like nature?" Is this something an ape has told you through the English language? Communicated to you through thought? Just how do you know?

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
So how do you know that apes can be aware of their "ape-like nature?" Is this something an ape has told you through the English language? Communicated to you through thought? Just how do you know?

PhilX

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