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Tim Chappell explains “Why Euthanasia is in Nobody’s Interest”.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/40/Euthanasia_Debate_I

Shouldn't be a debate. When will you humans grow up and let people their right to die?

Second, if you want to have a compelling argument, you shouldn't require people to pay money to see your side of the story.
Because of this, my verdict still stands. People should have a right to die.

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Shouldn't be a debate. When will you humans grow up and let people their right to die?

Second, if you want to have a compelling argument, you shouldn't require people to pay money to see your side of the story.
Because of this, my verdict still stands. People should have a right to die.

I couldn't agree more. Bastards who want to suffer are welcome to. Just don't tell the rest of us what to do.

Philosophy Now wrote:Tim Chappell explains “Why Euthanasia is in Nobody’s Interest”.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/40/Euthanasia_Debate_I

We call our new house 'The Phoenix', but it was accidental.

Philosophy Now wrote:Tim Chappell explains “Why Euthanasia is in Nobody’s Interest”.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/40/Euthanasia_Debate_I

I haven't read the article, but I know I disagree with it.

It used to be that the church owned your life and death.

Now, the medical fraternity owns your life and death. The medical fraternity will earn more money from the last six months of your medically extended life, then the whole of your life before it.

Euthanasia is very much in the interest of suffering, dying people, but it is not in the interest of the medical fraternity, who stand to loose the bulk of their income if dignified death was freely available.

It is the medical fraternity that dictates the law on dying, not the sick and dying.

That is why any attempt to die with dignity, without suffering, at a time and place of one's own choosing, will land one and one's loved ones who were helpful in the process in a legal nightmare.

How dare you die without first paying a doctor???

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Philosophy Now wrote:Tim Chappell explains “Why Euthanasia is in Nobody’s Interest”.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/40/Euthanasia_Debate_I

I haven't read the article, but I know I disagree with it.

It used to be that the church owned your life and death.

Now, the medical fraternity owns your life and death. The medical fraternity will earn more money from the last six months of your medically extended life, then the whole of your life before it.

Euthanasia is very much in the interest of suffering, dying people, but it is not in the interest of the medical fraternity, who stand to loose the bulk of their income if dignified death was freely available.

It is the medical fraternity that dictates the law on dying, not the sick and dying.

That is why any attempt to die with dignity, without suffering, at a time and place of one's own choosing, will land one and one's loved ones who were helpful in the process in a legal nightmare.

How dare you die without first paying a doctor???

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Yep.

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Philosophy Now wrote:Tim Chappell explains “Why Euthanasia is in Nobody’s Interest”.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/40/Euthanasia_Debate_I

I haven't read the article, but I know I disagree with it.

It used to be that the church owned your life and death.

Now, the medical fraternity owns your life and death. The medical fraternity will earn more money from the last six months of your medically extended life, then the whole of your life before it.

Euthanasia is very much in the interest of suffering, dying people, but it is not in the interest of the medical fraternity, who stand to loose the bulk of their income if dignified death was freely available.

It is the medical fraternity that dictates the law on dying, not the sick and dying.

That is why any attempt to die with dignity, without suffering, at a time and place of one's own choosing, will land one and one's loved ones who were helpful in the process in a legal nightmare.

How dare you die without first paying a doctor???

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Are you sure? I think most doctors favour euthanasia. They practice it discretely often enough. I think it's still the Church dictating to us. Look up any anti-euthanasia literature and you will nearly always find blatant religionism.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Are you sure? I think most doctors favour euthanasia. They practice it discretely often enough. I think it's still the Church dictating to us. Look up any anti-euthanasia literature and you will nearly always find blatant religionism.

If you live in Europe, you are probably correct about doctors favouring euthanasia.

I live elsewhere

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Are you sure? I think most doctors favour euthanasia. They practice it discretely often enough. I think it's still the Church dictating to us. Look up any anti-euthanasia literature and you will nearly always find blatant religionism.

If you live in Europe, you are probably correct about doctors favouring euthanasia.

I live elsewhere

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Most doctors I've encountered are doing well enough, they don't need to worry about extending life to get more paychecks, they seem to be interested in ending suffering where possible.

thedoc wrote:
Most doctors I've encountered are doing well enough, they don't need to worry about extending life to get more paychecks, they seem to be interested in ending suffering where possible.

It's a funny thing, the richer people get, the greedier they get. I only know of a few doctors who, once they have secured enough to live on for the rest of their life, work pro bono. The rest of the medical fraternity hate these doctors with a passion, because these angels of mercy interfere with fulfilling the average MD's desire to accumulate much more than they will ever need.

Euthanasia

I killed a child once:
its small, fragile body
convulsing, in helpless agony,
in the middle of the night.

It was the hardest
I ever had to do:
plastic bag over the head,
pillow over tiny body…

tears soaking my face,
resolute till the end,
until the struggle stopped
and, finally, she was dead.

It was ‘only’ a cat
but I loved it like a child,
loved it enough
to end its pointless suffering.

While most of us would
end the agony
of those we love,
and would want the help
when finally we'll need it --

our rulers say you can’t be
merciful to humans -
only to animals,…
they warn of abuse,
criminal negligence.

They fear exceptions,
they are afraid to think, to decide,
they feel safe with zero tolerance:
the hallmark of the craven
and the incompetent.