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Living

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:33 pm
by tbieter
"NOT IN VAIN"

by Emily Dickinson

If I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain:
If I can ease one life the aching,
Or cool one pain,
Or help one fainting robin
Unto his nest again,
I shall not live in vain.


Read more at http://www.scrapbook.com/poems/doc/236. ... 0j8kj0F.99

I think of this poem whenever I encounter a beggar. I always give.

Re: Living

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:11 pm
by duszek
What could be added in times of internet forums ?

If I can make a troll less pitiful and annoying
I shall not live in vain.

Re: Living

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:20 pm
by tbieter
duszek wrote:What could be added in times of internet forums ?

If I can make a troll less pitiful and annoying
I shall not live in vain.
So I'm a troll?

troll
noun
14.
a song whose parts are sung in succession; a round.
15.
the act of trolling.
16.
a lure used in trolling for fish.
17.
the fishing line containing the lure and hook for use in trolling.
18.
Digital Technology, Informal. a person who posts inflammatory or inappropriate messages or comments online for the purpose of upsetting other users and provoking a response.

I apologize. I'll be more careful. I thought that I have been posting stuff and questions of philosophical interest. Thank you for your criticism.

Re: Living

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:34 pm
by thedoc
tbieter wrote:
duszek wrote:What could be added in times of internet forums ?

If I can make a troll less pitiful and annoying
I shall not live in vain.
So I'm a troll?

Isn't everyone just a bit of a Troll, at least sometimes?

And I don't think it was a reference to anyone in particular, just Trolls in general.

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:02 pm
by duszek
Tom Bieter, I have never considered you a troll. I am very much surprised that such a possibility could have occurred to you at all.

I was only wondering what one might add to the poem. You added something too.

I started a thread about trolls, most people are tough on them, and recommend to pity them at the same time.
But this "pity" they think of is a sort of deterrence, it is cold and merciless.

What would be the right sort of charity towards a troll ?

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:41 pm
by GreatandWiseTrixie
duszek wrote:Tom Bieter, I have never considered you a troll. I am very much surprised that such a possibility could have occurred to you at all.

I was only wondering what one might add to the poem. You added something too.

I started a thread about trolls, most people are tough on them, and recommend to pity them at the same time.
But this "pity" they think of is a sort of deterrence, it is cold and merciless.

What would be the right sort of charity towards a troll ?
Pity is indeed a merciless term. Nintendo has a trait of releasing the heros as villians, and the villians as heros. At the end of Legend of Zelda OOT, Zelda (the hero) calls Ganon "a pitiable man." Pitiable man indeed, as Zelda and her kingdom was responsible for the genocide of his entire race. His race was cast out into the desert in the first place, Zelda made him the villian in the first place. She even wears the eye of Horus.

Mario is no different, Mario abused Donkey Kong and his son, Mario abuse Yoshi, Mario treats women like disposables, Mario kills children for money. They don't even try to hide it, they put it in plain sight. People are so stupid they don't even realize it. With the use of 1920's ragtime it's plain to see that the game is an insult to American culture, and how they always consider themselves the good guys no matter what horrible things they do.

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:56 pm
by tbieter
duszek wrote:Tom Bieter, I have never considered you a troll. I am very much surprised that such a possibility could have occurred to you at all.

I was only wondering what one might add to the poem. You added something too.

I started a thread about trolls, most people are tough on them, and recommend to pity them at the same time.
But this "pity" they think of is a sort of deterrence, it is cold and merciless.

What would be the right sort of charity towards a troll ?
Thanks dusz. I'm as much against trolls as you are. Charity would be ignoring them.

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:12 pm
by duszek
If I have managed to clear a misunderstanding
I have not lived a day in vain.

You are one of the best posters on this forum, when I see your name I rush to see what is there.

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There are quite a number of ideas comparable to the poem you have quoted:

A day without a smile (or a laugh) is a lost day.

A day without a kind word, etc.

My "partner" and me have developed a ritual of sharing kindness and hilarious quality time late at night.

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:00 pm
by artisticsolution
tbieter wrote:"NOT IN VAIN"

by Emily Dickinson

If I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain:
If I can ease one life the aching,
Or cool one pain,
Or help one fainting robin
Unto his nest again,
I shall not live in vain.


Read more at http://www.scrapbook.com/poems/doc/236. ... 0j8kj0F.99

I think of this poem whenever I encounter a beggar. I always give.
With this poem in mind. Did you rescue your dog yet? :D

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:24 pm
by GreatandWiseTrixie
tbieter wrote:
duszek wrote:Tom Bieter, I have never considered you a troll. I am very much surprised that such a possibility could have occurred to you at all.

I was only wondering what one might add to the poem. You added something too.

I started a thread about trolls, most people are tough on them, and recommend to pity them at the same time.
But this "pity" they think of is a sort of deterrence, it is cold and merciless.

What would be the right sort of charity towards a troll ?
Thanks dusz. I'm as much against trolls as you are. Charity would be ignoring them.
I'm a troll because I mentioned videogames? Or you just felt like ignoring me, assumed it wasn't worth your time to read or comment on because it had the word Mario in it?

You know how we feel about blanket statements, and assumptions. They make an ass of u and me. Blanket statements saying all trolls are bad. Or all x is y. Forming allegiances against imaginary entities. Child's make believe.

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:38 pm
by tbieter
artisticsolution wrote:
tbieter wrote:"NOT IN VAIN"

by Emily Dickinson

If I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain:
If I can ease one life the aching,
Or cool one pain,
Or help one fainting robin
Unto his nest again,
I shall not live in vain.


Read more at http://www.scrapbook.com/poems/doc/236. ... 0j8kj0F.99

I think of this poem whenever I encounter a beggar. I always give.
With this poem in mind. Did you rescue your dog yet? :D
Not yet. In the meantime, I go to my son's house and get Charlie and take him to the dog park and then to my home. Otherwise, he is alone all day, which I don't like because the house might catch fire.

As you can see, Charlie waits in the window watching for me to drive up.
https://www.facebook.com/tbieter
Then he goes wild. I can hear him screeching from outside.
Currently, he fullfills my need for a dog.

Re: Living

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:45 pm
by tbieter
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
tbieter wrote:
duszek wrote:Tom Bieter, I have never considered you a troll. I am very much surprised that such a possibility could have occurred to you at all.

I was only wondering what one might add to the poem. You added something too.

I started a thread about trolls, most people are tough on them, and recommend to pity them at the same time.
But this "pity" they think of is a sort of deterrence, it is cold and merciless.

What would be the right sort of charity towards a troll ?
Thanks dusz. I'm as much against trolls as you are. Charity would be ignoring them.
I'm a troll because I mentioned videogames? Or you just felt like ignoring me, assumed it wasn't worth your time to read or comment on because it had the word Mario in it?

You know how we feel about blanket statements, and assumptions. They make an ass of u and me. Blanket statements saying all trolls are bad. Or all x is y. Forming allegiances against imaginary entities. Child's make believe.
I read your posts. But, I don't understand most of them. Who is Mario?