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Posted: **Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:42 pm**

Steve Neumann on morality, games and Bilbo Baggins.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/On ... e_Them_All

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:12 am**

In the Black Speech of Mordor.

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

It reads in Westernesse:

Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

or in short:

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

I think all men lie but the reason Sauron (Maia and Istari a lower order of the angelic choir of Eru of which The Valar are the highest order of Seraphim) and Morgoth (synonimous with Satan and the Devil) exist is a little more than philososophy, and pretty boring unless you are a Tolkien nerd.

I can't read that but if it is saying anything but that Tolkien endeavoured to bring back the worlds mythology to the little people, I probably don't want to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzVYYESyv4

Hear the literal translation here. From the mouth of Sauron himself.

You have no choice: The ring must be destroyed? Hence free will too? That was Sauron's plan all along? Will you take the ring? Does Morgoth triumph through his will, does Sauron's will to dominate all life rob humanity of the gift of free will? Elves don't have free will, Elrond the Half elf didn't either, he chose an immortal life. Will you choose death over free will or free will over death?

That was the point, I don't think that article is as big a nerd as me.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:26 am**

All these rules are nonsense and babble, 'Dalfy's powers variates from scene to scene. First he has trouble with a small cave troll, then suddenly he rises to power and defeats the Balrog!?! ............yearh..................

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:30 am**

That was mess Hex at least try and read something before you wax lyrical on it.

Or are you a cave troll?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyevhryWKHk

Gandalf died at the hands of the Balrog for a start, you might want to think about your logic.

"I am the wielder of the secret flame the flame of Anor, the dark fire will not avail you flame of Urun: you shall not PASS!"

The Lord of the Rings.

Losely translated it means, I am a servant of Eru or the one God, wielder of the power to create life AKA the flame of Anor: the dark fire of Morgoth's corruption on the Ainur (song of life) will not avail you flame or slave of Utumno, the pits where they were created from fire Faries or elementals of the old world, Maia, by Morgoth.

Both Gandalf and Sauron are Maia a lower order of the holy angelic choir under The Valar. However the older gods, the faries of old were also Maiai, they were the evil spirits of our ancestors, The Sidhe or Aos Si, of Tir nan oG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%ADr_na_n%C3%93g

In mythology the land of the young, those old and ancient but not Eru the one God, Alien but not a power as such. The Sidhe prononced Shee of Celtic myth were said to dwell and rule there, but they never did, they ruled over nature and animism that is instilled in the spirits of it, the world and you.

Tír na nÓg

In Irish mythology and folklore, Tír na nÓg ([tʲiːɾˠ n̪ˠə ˈn̪ˠoːɡ]; "Land of the Young") or Tír na hÓige ("Land of Youth") is one of the names for the Otherworld, or perhaps for a part of it. It is depicted as a supernatural realm of everlasting youth, beauty, health, abundance and joy.[1] Its inhabitants are the Tuath Dé, the gods of pre-Christian Ireland.[1] In the echtrae (adventure) and immram (voyage) tales, various Irish mythical heroes visit Tír na nÓg after a voyage or an invitation from one of its residents. They reach it by entering ancient burial mounds or caves, or by going under water or across the sea.[1]

Tír na nÓg is best known from the tale of Oisín and Niamh.[2] In the tale, Oisín (a human hero) and Niamh (a woman of the Otherworld) fall in love. She brings him to Tír na nÓg on a magical horse that can travel over water. After spending what seems to be three years there, Oisín becomes homesick and wants to return to Ireland. Niamh reluctantly lets him return on the magical horse, but warns him never to touch the ground. When he returns, he finds that 300 years have passed in Ireland. Oisín falls from the horse. He instantly becomes elderly, as the years catch up with him, and he quickly dies of old age.[3]

Other Old Irish names for the Otherworld include Tír Tairngire ("Land of Promise/Promised Land"),[1][4] Tír fo Thuinn ("Land under the Wave"),[1] Mag Mell ("Plain of Delight/Delightful Plain"),[1] Ildathach ("Multicoloured place"),[3] and Emain Ablach.

Nerding at a 100th grade level.

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