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civilization or darkness?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:19 am
by ati46
Civilization or darkness?
The ancient Greek civilization
Lives ever everywhere

Or the ancient Greek civilization against crooks
Or find the pro - centurial energy
To find the present
A thread with unbreakable
Continuation it is
Or
How the false dreams
With their adamant
Spatiotemporal structure
Support the truth
Of everyday reality
In wakefulness


Civilization or darkness?
An excellent civilization in counter attack
In the name of truth and rationality
I feel alone here today
at the beginning of the 21st century A.D.
to impeach the faked and metaphysical Christianity
as the biggest scheme on earth of all times,
that cost all humanity at least
all the unfathomable reaches
of the bank of Spirito Santo of the Vatican
Not to reckon on top of it all
the unbelievable treasures of the Holy Tomb
and all the blood that was spilled in vain
for the sake of Christianity for centuries
A whole roaring waterfall of red blood
And I’ve found myself alone here today
To defend the pagan ancient Greek civilization
That was under all testimonies
the biggest in the whole wide world
when this plot was stood especially against
the ancient Greek civilization
that was flattened by the shrewd crooks
with simple metaphysical nonsense
stepping on the shoulders
of the Roman world leaders
and it was applied on the psyches of the Greeks
and then on all the pagans of the world
with simple Romaic violence everywhere from end to end
but a better religion is not what we needed
we just needed improved philosophy
And I feel alone here today

Civilization or darkness?
to defend a dead and lost civilization
Against the hollow, unfitting and misplaced
Metaphysical philosophy of Christianity
Yet it is vigorous and lush
With crushing percentages everywhere on earth
and especially in Greece today.
Triumphant is the much admired “Saint” Nikolas
Who is pictured armed with steel scrapers to scrape genital organs
from magnificent ancient Greek statues.
And why do I defend here now an unexpected truth
That surely will be hated by most?
Who am I?
What am I looking for?
What chances do I stand?
How will I live?
And how will I die?
And what will remain from my ideas?
To whom and why?

Every man would do the same
I simply defend the truth as any man would ever do
And I am jittered to feel absolutely alone
against so many, against all I could say
that’s what any true man would do
for I believe unwaveringly that the holy Spirit
is just a pompous nickname of simple energy
a metaphysical name that says nothing in essence
despite it is believed by so many
and they kneel before it with holy zeal
and they have changed even laws of the state
Civilization or darkness?
to defend and protect it.
Yet, there is only one force in power
I believe that there is only one accepted force in power
since ever, the scientific energy, that is accepted
both by philosophy and science today.
As its Greek name goes “energy”
that through which (-en) is energized (-ergy) always everything
According to the sacred Greek scriptures
And this is not just empty talk,
Because civilization is served
exclusively by this term “energy”
that is put directly against every metaphysical term.
The spatiotemporal steady
Today I have testified its power repeatedly
Since I have seen with my own eyes
And very clearly that all dream symbols happen
Obeying a spatiotemporal standard,
a steady spatiotemporal component, that is,
for energy functions with steady spatiotemporal positions,
the same and all dream symbols in any case
Secret and absolute power of the dreams therefore
it is an absolute and unsurpassed spatiotemporal steady,
according to which all our dreams always happen
.
Twenty five years steadily
And allas I feel that I believe all these only by myself
Since I support steadily all these last 25 years
With books and lectures and specific theories
Civilization or darkness?
very incomprehensible to most
that the dream symbols exist and function
simply for our psyche to administer some energy loads,
apart and different than rational reality
as all of us feel and understand it in wakefulness,
Not seeing and not caring for the energy component,
which we usually name with strange metaphysical name
And yet.
We all know that energy always holds unwaveringly
very specific positions in place and time
And can be very easily spotted in the dream symbols
that always definitely happen spatiotemporaly arranged
And exist in specific space and time positions as everything else
with especially great precision, where, how, and when that is
any relationship between them ever happened that are exact always
anything happens both in wakefulness and in the dreams
and it is more than easy to spot anything in space and time,
components that are reproduced first and exact in every dream
and their loads are always administered in dreams,
when ourself lets go and gets down to sleep.

Up to any end steadily
And I don’t even know where this case will lead me to
I simply know that I am a Greek after all
and I can’t abandon a truth alone and helpless
at the sake of an non existing god from Israel,
or from anywhere else on earth or heaven,
neither at the sake of His self made helpers on earth
that they are all unsuspectful of all these parameters,
Civilization or darkness?
as they always project flamboyant ignorance
for anything philosophical,
this is my drama or their own I can easily say.
I only know that I will defend this truth to its very end
To any end at all as any true Greek would do
who cares about truth and logic
Presuppositions that have always been powerful and Greek,

The truth historically
Now that we are away historically this truth shines clearly even more
As energy that energized the millstones that ground peoples.
From one side there were the Roman legions (that won everywhere)
Greeks, Jews, Mesopotamians, Egyptians and the rest.
And on the other side a shrewd people with a shrewder leader,
Saul that was named Paul and identified Yahve with energy inside us,
and gave the Greek energy forcefully a plead of metaphysical names:
Yahve, Holy Spirit, Cherubim, Angels devils and archdevils.
Like the shrewd ivy that spreads free over the great maple tree
the shrewd filled the heart of the world empire and conquered earth
and the millstones first ground us, the most amazing civilization on earth,
for we were enemies of any shrewd, and we could reach the truth
logically, and they could not topple us with metaphysical nonsense,
so they ground us and imposed all their crap to our grounded maze.
Even Liantinis* says today that when the Turks appeared in history
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*Liantinis is the last great Greek philosopher who terminated recently
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“200.000 monks existed in Byzantium in fighting age,
which ate their fill and farted vigorously, but never raised a weapon.”
Even today there are proofs that propagate with their very presence
the lawless bind of world leaders and priests,
Powerful proofs today are the yellow flags of Byzantium,
Civilization or darkness?
which picture the double headed eagle that flatters flying proudly
on poles outside the Christian cathedrals all over Greece.
Now that the historical time digested Roman legions within earth
these flying flags still offer to Roman Byzantium timeless honors,
but only suggest the meaningless wolf treaty between world emperors
and shrewd priests at the expense of Greeks especially and unavoidably
For nobody, world emperor or priest, could do without Greek language,
and even the most secret motto of the priests “alleluyah” has a Greek root
and means unite bonded “alliloi” or “allelou for yiah-ve!”
For alleluyah simply means “allelu yah-ve”! Or: “all bonded for yah-ve!”
And this is truly meant by alleluyah: an energy show,
otherwise why did they have to shout alleluyah all together?
Did they mean that the all Mighty didn’t know what he had to do
and they had to impose on Him correct directions?
No, they simply needed some accumulated energy themselves,
“alleluyah” all together or else allelu (all bonded) for Yah-ve!
One needs two grams of brain to realize the whole scheme,
It only takes not to fear shadows and insist on Greek just a little bit.
Get lost with Yahve you bums! There is only energy and nothing else.

What does “hypothalamus” mean?
As I remember now that back in 1968 I had said a bit arrogantly
to an acquiedance of mine an American student of medicine
that the understanding of the most shrewd medical terms in English
it is a child’s play to all Greek speakers,
for they all meant something precise in simple Greek.
He looked at me steadily with his shiny gaze
and asked me at once with unexpected American suspicion:
“And do you mean that you know what Hypothalamos mean?”
I was stunned suddenly for I never expected him
to ask me something in relation to what I had just told him
and especially not such a simple Greek word
Civilization or darkness?
no matter what impression it made on his American eyes.
To me it gave such a start and my mind started spinning
for I knew that “hypothalamus means “under chamber”
for hypo means under, below and thalamus means cell or chamber,
so al together in Greek “hypothalamus” means “underchamber”.
I told him that in awe for in my own eyes it was proven correct
at once whatever I had said to him and I saw,
I myself first of all, that the Greek civilization was so vast
that all medical dictionaries of the world were filled with terms
fully Greek-like for philosophy always opens perfect mental roads
and so the Greek language gives great status to serious terms.

There is hope eventually
And yet there is some hope I think now to my self,
reckoning with real shudder that event.
And I recall definitely. Nothing is lost as yet
and no I am not alone in this world.
Here it is the whole Greek civilization,
an ally and assistant to all speaking Greek
to all their philosophical essays and attempts
for an excellent civilization happens once in history
but delivers timeless truths that stand for eternity.
After all for this exact reason we should not abandon it that easily.
Neither to abandon it as pagan or anything else as unnatural.
It was always natural and beyond any metaphysics as,
“the corners of all triangles always sum two right angles.”
Truth is the absolute corner stone of every little thing.
No, the metaphysical instructors didn’t annihilate it
and the Christian aphorisms. didn’t flatten its truths
Only it wrapped itself and was scattered to the quarters of earth

Civilization or darkness?
and found refuge in all the dictionaries and schools of the world
that come in myriads themselves all over earth,
maybe even more than the “holy” Christian churches.
For the ancient Greek civilization lives always and everywhere
and still delivers timeless truths and eternal.
Yes, inside me sprout very reasonable hopes that eventually
civilization may dominate against the crooks
no matter how powerful protectors did they always have,
whatever triumphant course they followed in the past
Whatever dominant dynamics they had in the past
even up to this very same present day.
Yes I will defend to the end the simple civilization,
against anybody regardless whatever cost or gain.
I have no other vent, neither any other option.
Foundation and a steady rule I only have my naked truth.

The philosophical terms
I am not interested in a revolution like Nietzsche or Bakunin
who had philosophized against Christianity themselves
I simple need to Restore some philosophical terms
to say energy again and not Holy Spirit,
terms that were carnibalized once by some crooks
who gave to energy, the only existing power,
names as: Yahve, Holy Spirit, cherubim, Seraphim,
simply to take enough market advantage of all these.
Which I would wish to finish them plainly,
with serenity, simplicity and calmness and no revolution anywhere
We have no revolution here at all but simple philosophy
that always exists within truth and logic
and restores logical and lingual plain order of things

Civilization or darkness?
it also gives simple peace to every psyche by bringing
simple balance of ever simple energy inside us.
This is the winning trick and not some forgiveness
by a non existing god from Israel or from anywhere else.

The Greek power
Philosophy is a simple power, Greek, the biggest,
for it has as its foundation logic and truth anyway,
and support energy as the only existing power,
pushing aside all other metaphysical ideas,
that we all know that they are clearly Jew matters,
and say nothing, neither should they, to the logical Greeks at all.
Yes, eventually I am not alone in this world.
Along exist here all logical Greek lovers
and we go together, with one decision, one voice.

Re: civilization or darkness?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:53 am
by prof
Greetings, ati46

You ask: civilization or darkness?

I'm betting on civilization ...after we emerge from the darkness we are now going through.

That's good poetry you write because, among other reasons, it's meaningful and it's symbolic (filled with charming metaphors.)

Every system eventually breaks down. That includes The American Empire (which virtually no American, save for populists and progressives, wants to admit IS an empire) and it includes the European Union. Both are currently in the process of dissolution, both are crumbling. The Middle East is already in the process of crumbling, reverting to the condition of the Byzantine times ..the ethics of which - get revenge! mistrust your neighbor! screw the others! - never seems to have gone away. It seems safe to predict that Israel and the Muslim nations (or factions) will go to war again. India has already felt the wrath of Pakistan which today is very precarious as a nation-state. [Israel itself is captive to its orthodox minority who dogmatically adhere to the belief that their land is 'sacred territory.' So it is unstable and is heading for breakdown.]

It is not too hard to predict that the nations of Europe will soon go bankrupt and will need restructuring into some kind of novel unity. Greece is already under water. The balkanization process will continue.

We see the U.S.A becoming increasingly dysfunctional: have you seen the U.S. Congress lately? Texas may soon break away from the rest of the country. The U.S. will dissolve iinto regions; there already exists much factionalism.

Restructuring is not a bad thing, though some people get hurt. General Motors went through it, and although some (if not most) union workers took a haircut in their promised pensions, and had to settle for less, the company - and the auto industry today is thriving ...or is 'surviving' more accurate? Ford Motor Co. escaped having to go into bankruptcy; they must have been doing something right. With new Republican governors having been voted in, several states - such as Illinois, for example - will now undergo restructuring, as did the city of Detroit. In the latter case, its debts were cancelled by fiat. Its citizens first, though, experienced tyranny. Their elected local representatives were declared by the State of Michigan's Governor (suffering from Empathy-deficit Disorder) to be null and void; they were made powerless. ...not a good feeling if you lived there.

We are unlikely to go back exactly to the civilization they had in ancient Greece. Yet it may be that some leader equivalent to Alexander the Great may have to come along. Even better, note that
millions came out into the streets in Paris on January 11, 2015 for the ideal of "free speech."

The French Revolution raised high the values: Liberte and Egalite. Now maybe many French citizens know better. They are aware they live in a tight-security State, and that people are NOT equal: they form a bell curve when it comes to economic status, intellectual ability, opportunity to better themselves, capacity for empathy, height, weight,etc., etc.

I said at the outset "I'm betting on Civilization." It will be decentralized and democratic. It's structures and institutions will be small in size - Schumpeter was right (as his book was entitled) that "Small is Beautiful." It will have towns and villages rather than densely-packed cities.

Although the Libraries of Alexandria were destroyed, some knowledge of scientific methods, critical thinking, and the value of reason will survive the Fall of the American Empire, just as Great Britain emerged still rather enlightened after its Empire dissolved. Australia and Canada today are far more-advanced than the United States. But even they are militaristic and permit folks in urban areas to bear arms - a stupid policy.

In many, many ways the world is getting better, and civilization will eventually triumph. We ought to keep that in mind. There is plenty of evidence to back up that conclusion. Fortunately a majority of Americans now hold to populist policy positions, as the polls show. We are just a hairs-breath away {although to some it may seem like an abyss} from Ethics becoming a science. The word will spread, and this new science will have its impact. The pen is still yet mightier than the sword. Memes, once they pass the critical point can spread like wildfire. History repeats itself, and a new Age of Enlightenment will occur.

:idea: Perhaps, when you write positive, inspirational poetry, you will help this along! :idea:

And when every reader does his/her part to teach Ethics to the world this will speed up the process. The day is coming :!:

Re: civilization or darkness?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:43 pm
by ati46
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Re: civilization or darkness?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:43 pm
by ati46
prof wrote:Greetings, ati46

You ask: civilization or darkness?

I'm betting on civilization ...after we emerge from the darkness we are now going through.

That's good poetry you write because, among other reasons, it's meaningful and it's symbolic (filled with charming metaphors.)

Every system eventually breaks down. That includes The American Empire (which virtually no American, save for populists and progressives, wants to admit IS an empire) and it includes the European Union. Both are currently in the process of dissolution, both are crumbling. The Middle East is already in the process of crumbling, reverting to the condition of the Byzantine times ..the ethics of which - get revenge! mistrust your neighbor! screw the others! - never seems to have gone away. It seems safe to predict that Israel and the Muslim nations (or factions) will go to war again. India has already felt the wrath of Pakistan which today is very precarious as a nation-state. [Israel itself is captive to its orthodox minority who dogmatically adhere to the belief that their land is 'sacred territory.' So it is unstable and is heading for breakdown.]

It is not too hard to predict that the nations of Europe will soon go bankrupt and will need restructuring into some kind of novel unity. Greece is already under water. The balkanization process will continue.

We see the U.S.A becoming increasingly dysfunctional: have you seen the U.S. Congress lately? Texas may soon break away from the rest of the country. The U.S. will dissolve iinto regions; there already exists much factionalism.

Restructuring is not a bad thing, though some people get hurt. General Motors went through it, and although some (if not most) union workers took a haircut in their promised pensions, and had to settle for less, the company - and the auto industry today is thriving ...or is 'surviving' more accurate? Ford Motor Co. escaped having to go into bankruptcy; they must have been doing something right. With new Republican governors having been voted in, several states - such as Illinois, for example - will now undergo restructuring, as did the city of Detroit. In the latter case, its debts were cancelled by fiat. Its citizens first, though, experienced tyranny. Their elected local representatives were declared by the State of Michigan's Governor (suffering from Empathy-deficit Disorder) to be null and void; they were made powerless. ...not a good feeling if you lived there.

We are unlikely to go back exactly to the civilization they had in ancient Greece. Yet it may be that some leader equivalent to Alexander the Great may have to come along. Even better, note that
millions came out into the streets in Paris on January 11, 2015 for the ideal of "free speech."

The French Revolution raised high the values: Liberte and Egalite. Now maybe many French citizens know better. They are aware they live in a tight-security State, and that people are NOT equal: they form a bell curve when it comes to economic status, intellectual ability, opportunity to better themselves, capacity for empathy, height, weight,etc., etc.

I said at the outset "I'm betting on Civilization." It will be decentralized and democratic. It's structures and institutions will be small in size - Schumpeter was right (as his book was entitled) that "Small is Beautiful." It will have towns and villages rather than densely-packed cities.

Although the Libraries of Alexandria were destroyed, some knowledge of scientific methods, critical thinking, and the value of reason will survive the Fall of the American Empire, just as Great Britain emerged still rather enlightened after its Empire dissolved. Australia and Canada today are far more-advanced than the United States. But even they are militaristic and permit folks in urban areas to bear arms - a stupid policy.

In many, many ways the world is getting better, and civilization will eventually triumph. We ought to keep that in mind. There is plenty of evidence to back up that conclusion. Fortunately a majority of Americans now hold to populist policy positions, as the polls show. We are just a hairs-breath away {although to some it may seem like an abyss} from Ethics becoming a science. The word will spread, and this new science will have its impact. The pen is still yet mightier than the sword. Memes, once they pass the critical point can spread like wildfire. History repeats itself, and a new Age of Enlightenment will occur.

:idea: Perhaps, when you write positive, inspirational poetry, you will help this along! :idea:

And when every reader does his/her part to teach Ethics to the world this will speed up the process. The day is coming :!:

Re: civilization or darkness?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:50 pm
by ati46
prof wrote:Greetings, ati46

You ask: civilization or darkness?

I'm betting on civilization ...after we emerge from the darkness we are now going through.

That's good poetry you write because, among other reasons, it's meaningful and it's symbolic (filled with charming metaphors.)

Every system eventually breaks down. That includes The American Empire (which virtually no American, save for populists and progressives, wants to admit IS an empire) and it includes the European Union. Both are currently in the process of dissolution, both are crumbling. The Middle East is already in the process of crumbling, reverting to the condition of the Byzantine times ..the ethics of which - get revenge! mistrust your neighbor! screw the others! - never seems to have gone away. It seems safe to predict that Israel and the Muslim nations (or factions) will go to war again. India has already felt the wrath of Pakistan which today is very precarious as a nation-state. [Israel itself is captive to its orthodox minority who dogmatically adhere to the belief that their land is 'sacred territory.' So it is unstable and is heading for breakdown.]

It is not too hard to predict that the nations of Europe will soon go bankrupt and will need restructuring into some kind of novel unity. Greece is already under water. The balkanization process will continue.

We see the U.S.A becoming increasingly dysfunctional: have you seen the U.S. Congress lately? Texas may soon break away from the rest of the country. The U.S. will dissolve iinto regions; there already exists much factionalism.

Restructuring is not a bad thing, though some people get hurt. General Motors went through it, and although some (if not most) union workers took a haircut in their promised pensions, and had to settle for less, the company - and the auto industry today is thriving ...or is 'surviving' more accurate? Ford Motor Co. escaped having to go into bankruptcy; they must have been doing something right. With new Republican governors having been voted in, several states - such as Illinois, for example - will now undergo restructuring, as did the city of Detroit. In the latter case, its debts were cancelled by fiat. Its citizens first, though, experienced tyranny. Their elected local representatives were declared by the State of Michigan's Governor (suffering from Empathy-deficit Disorder) to be null and void; they were made powerless. ...not a good feeling if you lived there.

We are unlikely to go back exactly to the civilization they had in ancient Greece. Yet it may be that some leader equivalent to Alexander the Great may have to come along. Even better, note that
millions came out into the streets in Paris on January 11, 2015 for the ideal of "free speech."

The French Revolution raised high the values: Liberte and Egalite. Now maybe many French citizens know better. They are aware they live in a tight-security State, and that people are NOT equal: they form a bell curve when it comes to economic status, intellectual ability, opportunity to better themselves, capacity for empathy, height, weight,etc., etc.

I said at the outset "I'm betting on Civilization." It will be decentralized and democratic. It's structures and institutions will be small in size - Schumpeter was right (as his book was entitled) that "Small is Beautiful." It will have towns and villages rather than densely-packed cities.

Although the Libraries of Alexandria were destroyed, some knowledge of scientific methods, critical thinking, and the value of reason will survive the Fall of the American Empire, just as Great Britain emerged still rather enlightened after its Empire dissolved. Australia and Canada today are far more-advanced than the United States. But even they are militaristic and permit folks in urban areas to bear arms - a stupid policy.

In many, many ways the world is getting better, and civilization will eventually triumph. We ought to keep that in mind. There is plenty of evidence to back up that conclusion. Fortunately a majority of Americans now hold to populist policy positions, as the polls show. We are just a hairs-breath away {although to some it may seem like an abyss} from Ethics becoming a science. The word will spread, and this new science will have its impact. The pen is still yet mightier than the sword. Memes, once they pass the critical point can spread like wildfire. History repeats itself, and a new Age of Enlightenment will occur.

:idea: Perhaps, when you write positive, inspirational poetry, you will help this along! :idea:

And when every reader does his/her part to teach Ethics to the world this will speed up the process. The day is coming :!: