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Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:52 pm
by Philosophy Now

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:55 pm
by Impenitent
the search for certainty causes it...

-Imp

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:44 am
by tbieter
Does philosophy produce any knowledge, any philosophical constants?

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:51 am
by Arising_uk
For starters;

I am.

I can think in language, language needs at least two to exist therefore there are others.

Something cannot be and not be at the same time.

If something then something else then if that something then that something else.

Something or not that something.

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:54 am
by Arising_uk
It can lead to nihilism but it can also lead to its solution. Although it does depend upon which nihilism one is chatting about.

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:18 am
by HexHammer
What a preposterous headline! If one becomes nihilist of philosophy one in the first place is a tard, easily manipulated and totally lacks rationality like a "rain man".

This isn't philosophy this is stupidification on a high lvl!!!

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:29 pm
by Arising_uk
HexHammer wrote:What a preposterous headline! If one becomes nihilist of philosophy one in the first place is a tard, easily manipulated and totally lacks rationality like a "rain man".

This isn't philosophy this is stupidification on a high lvl!!!
What are you talking about? Which "nihilism" are you thinking about?

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:37 pm
by HexHammer
Arising_uk wrote:
HexHammer wrote:What a preposterous headline! If one becomes nihilist of philosophy one in the first place is a tard, easily manipulated and totally lacks rationality like a "rain man".

This isn't philosophy this is stupidification on a high lvl!!!
What are you talking about? Which "nihilism" are you thinking about?
No, WTF are you talking about?

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:10 pm
by Wyman
Arising_uk wrote:For starters;

I am.

I can think in language, language needs at least two to exist therefore there are others.

Something cannot be and not be at the same time.

If something then something else then if that something then that something else.

Something or not that something.
No - "I am." Full stop. You may believe the rest but they do not follow logically.

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:28 pm
by WanderingLands
It can, but it can also bring you answers in how to overcome it - just requires thought and time.

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:55 pm
by Wyman
Impenitent wrote:the search for certainty causes it...

-Imp
Good answer, although doesn't it need a caveat? The unsuccessful search for certainty causes it. Even if you categorize the successful as naive, dumb, religious, etc., they are not nihilists.

Isn't nihilism just socially unacceptable skepticism? Or skeptics are satisfied nihilists, whereas nihilists suffer angst.

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:06 pm
by Arising_uk
Wyman wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:For starters;

I am.

I can think in language, language needs at least two to exist therefore there are others.

Something cannot be and not be at the same time.

If something then something else then if that something then that something else.

Something or not that something.
No - "I am." Full stop. You may believe the rest but they do not follow logically.
How so? As at the very least the last three are axioms of Logic.

The second is this;
Language needs at least two to exist.
I think in language.
Therefore others exist. - Logical enough.

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:08 pm
by Arising_uk
HexHammer wrote:No, WTF are you talking about?
Maybe my mistake, what did you mean by "nihilist of philosophy"?

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:54 pm
by Impenitent
Arising_uk wrote:
Wyman wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:For starters;

I am.

I can think in language, language needs at least two to exist therefore there are others.

Something cannot be and not be at the same time.

If something then something else then if that something then that something else.

Something or not that something.
No - "I am." Full stop. You may believe the rest but they do not follow logically.
How so? As at the very least the last three are axioms of Logic.

The second is this;
Language needs at least two to exist.
I think in language.
Therefore others exist. - Logical enough.
you assume your conclusion in the first premise

-Imp

Re: Does Philosophy Cause Nihilism?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:56 pm
by Impenitent
Wyman wrote:
Impenitent wrote:the search for certainty causes it...

-Imp
Good answer, although doesn't it need a caveat? The unsuccessful search for certainty causes it. Even if you categorize the successful as naive, dumb, religious, etc., they are not nihilists.

Isn't nihilism just socially unacceptable skepticism? Or skeptics are satisfied nihilists, whereas nihilists suffer angst.
angst over nothing?

-Imp