The theory about everything (and consciousness)
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:26 am
Hello there, I am new to this forum and I want to present you an idea based on scientific theories.
Basicly, what i will do is present you a theory of how someone could attempt explaining the phenom consciousness and where the universe came from.
To understand the basics, I will simplify the theory of an ultimate multiverse. By definition the ultimate multiverse is a model of reality which describes every possible mathimatical universe. Sounds adventures, but it is a possible interpretation of quantum physics. The following I explain will be hard to understand as a logical being within our universe, due to how our brain works. Forget everything about physics and logic you know for a brief moment, it will make sense if you understand. (hopefully)
The words I use are non-scientific definitions and only an abstract way to visualize the model for people who are not familiar with it.
Imagine nothing. Now imagine a dot. Congratulations, you have reached the zeroth dimension (be careful here, the word dimension has nothing to do with the mathimatical term dimension, it is similar though). The dot, what might it be? Well, we will define it as information. The dot does not exist as a dot, it doesn't exist within space or time, it purely is information. It does not contain information, it IS information. Whatever you might imagine now, it is not what it is.
Now, imagine the dot running forward, it creates a line. The line doesn't really exist, it is just various dots within a one dimensional path. But congratulations again, you reached the first dimension.
Take the line and move it in an additional direction. The result is a plane. Again, the plane is just a collective of the lines and the lines are just a collective of information. The plane is just an interpretation of various lines. You reached the second dimension, let's go further.
You take the plane, do as you did before and the result is space, 3rd dimension. But what if we want to go further? We take the 3rd dimension and add another direction. Well, how exactly should we interpretate whatever the result might be? Basicly, we look at our own universe and space and time. We got space right? We reached the 3rd dimension before so now... what might the 4th be? Exactly, as you probably guessed or heard from some physicist before, it is time. To imagine how that works, imagine the forth dimension as a line.
One dot of the forth dimension contains "one" 3rd dimension. That means, if we travel along on the line, we would see the 3rd dimension moving. Like a movie, you take one picture after the other until it's fluid. There you got your movement. In other words, time equals movement. (more or less, don't get cocky here)
So, what exactly does that mean to us? Well, first it means that our consciousness is able to travel alongside the 4th dimension. On the other hand it means that whatever time and space is, it actually is in the end just dots, information. Everything, no matter when it happened or will happen, it just exists in no particular order. So, the big bang is just a constellation of the 3rd dimension, as is the moment your are expiriencing right now. Time is relative, time in the end is just an interpretation of the 4th dimension. Get it? Easy, the First-Cause problem is solved. But how exactly do we explain that our consciousness is able to expirience the 4th dimension as something fluid, something constant and moving?
Well, first we should go back to the dimension. Last time you stopped at the 4th dimension and realized that it's just a line. So, what happenes if we add another direction? Sure, we would reach the 5th dimension, but what exactly does that mean? So, if we have line of the 4th dimension which contains the whole history of our universe and we take it into another direction, we basicly get another history of our universe. The 5th dimension contains every possible history of our universe. Meaning that if the 5th dimension was a line, one dot would be one possible history of the universe. But we can go further, another dimension. We reach number 6 and here it gets quite complicated. What happenes if we have every possible 5th dimension? Well, mathematically all of this gets beyond common knowledge. Simplified, the following dimensions result in altered phyiscal laws and constants, up to the point where a universe might not resemble what we define a universe as. So vastly different that our concept of logic wouldn't apply in that universe.
This theory is also called the theory of everything. And from a philosophical standpoint, it's pretty much the best science has to offer. Where did it the universe come from? There is no "coming" from because time does not exists as we understand it. But that is besides the point, back to the consciousness.
We have now understood that there are different kinds of universes, actually infinite kinds of universes. They all have different rules and natural laws, altered by the mathematical constants (information) it is made of. Well, if we take all that in perspective, our universe is one universe in which there is a second instance, a mathematical "universe" that is connected to our universe (the terms I used are highly abstract, don't take it literally). In terms of the theory of an ultimate multiverse that's really a given. There has to be such a thing. Now, obviously we still don't know anything about the "second instance", or if it even exists in our universe. But it would explain very simplified how consciousness works.
It doesn't have to be a second instance, as we know, the universe is just information, so "instances" do not really exist. If we look at quantum physics, we see things that are beyond our imagination. Things that seem logically impossible to us. Particles traveling through time, back and forth, existing and non-existing, both at the same time. And then there is observation. Measuring something creates reactions within our universive. That means the "second instance" contains information besides the pure locations of atoms and such. It contains complex processes and the most elusive thing about all that is, that the information it contains has impact in our own universe. And these things are not just theories, they happen constantly and are reproduced in laboratories. Everything that happens in our universe (or basicly happened, as time is irrelevant) is "written" down somewhere else (again, don't take it literally).
Now imagine our physical universe. Basicly everything you know about: Space, time, atoms, chemical processes etc. image it as one bubble. The bubble is made out of information, so the position of every atom at any given time, the amount of energy at any given moment is all just information in one big bubble.
Now you have a bubble around the "physical-universe" bubble. Every single process within the first bubble is reviewed in the second bubble. The relation of every single element of the universe. In the second bubble there is also our consciousness. Like an electron that knows it is being observed (the observation is part of the information within the second bubble) the brain activities are similar processes that are observed in/by the second bubble. Every single process in the universe is processed (in the second bubble) in a certain and very specific way (depending on the given laws). For example, if an electron is observed the second bubble changes the first bubble and while doing that it changes the behaviour of that electron (this is just a model, it does not do that in realtime because it already happened/exists, remember time is relevant).
What happenes with the brain is basicly the same. The processes within our brain are sent into the second bubble, where they are interpretated as feelings, as colors, smell etc. and those feelings cause reactions in the first bubble. This is why your brain actually processes the colors. It is not just an observant of the brain processes, but also interacts with it. It is directly connected.
Why are certain processes in our brain interepretated as colors? Basicly, this is one of infinite possiblities which actually exist. In another universe with other laws and constants, other systems for interpretation, smells are maybe interpretated as colors, colors interpretated as smells etc. something that would make complex life impossible. Our consciousness is not made by our brain, it is made by the information of our brain processes. If an animal feels pain, in other words if the brain sends the signals for pain, there will be a consciousness that actually feels the pain. It is not the other way around, where you would ask if something could feel pain if it has no consciousness. The pain creates consciousness.
This is how it works (likely, atleast in a similar way) in our universe. There are many universes in which consciousness may not even exist or work in a totally different fashion. Creating other forms of life or none.
If we would express all of that in math, we would have certain formulars and numbers that happen to explain the universe we live in. The most impressive thing is, that every possible arrangement of numbers and formulars does exist. Our universe does not look like it does because it is convinient like that, it does because every form of universe does exist. Our universe has consciousness that actually "travels" from moment to moment creating a sense of time. But that's just other formulars and numbers (or information, meaning the real stuff reality is made of).
Why does it do that? Because, like I said, it is one of the infinite possibilities for an universe. It does not just "happen to exist", it has to exist, because reality is by definition infinite. Everything that is possible, even if it seems irrational and ridicilous to us, does exist.
So, consciousness is in other words just something that takes the information from the universe and interpretates it in a certain way (depending on the laws it has). In our universe time does not exists, neither does space. It is our abstract way to describe it or the way the consciousness resembles it. It is almost like watching a movie. On the bluray the whole film is written down. The film does exists as a whole. A bluray-player (the consciousness) can play the movie in a certain way. It could do it backwards, forward, slowmotion, black and white and even fast foward. It can skip around if it wants to. But it cannot change the bluray. The bluray, the film, just exists as something permanent outside of time. The bluray is our universe and the bluray-player our consciousness. How the bluray is interpretated depends on the bluray-player and it's functions. If we take it back to reality, there are infinite blurays (physical universes) and infinite bluray-players (forms of consciousness). All with different movies (laws of nature, constants etc.) and functions of the player (interepretation of colors, feelings etc).
But there are also infinite rooms (universes as a whole), some have no bluray-players at all and others may have something completely different.
Just so you know, in another room there is currently someone watching the same movie you are watching, maybe he is currently where you are, maybe he is in the future, maybe he is at your 5th birthday. Well, actually with most certainity, with every certainity, there is such a person (consciousness). Not just one, but infinite. All watching the same you are watching, feeling the same emotions. And if you die, there is no reason why there wouldn't be the same consciousness again. Repeating your life or another life again and again and again. The same person watching every movie ever made, living the life of every being existing in every possible universe. We are not talking about chances here, we are talking about certainity. In reality, every possible universe does exist meaning that life and death are just concepts. There is no end and there is no beginning, nor for a consciousness neither for a universe. It just exists, forever and infinite times.
Once you understand the concept, you will understand reality (atleast in one possible way). It is actually quite simple, you don't even have to understand physics. Physics are just used to describe our universe. If we get to far away from what we know, the formulars start to become so abstract that every interepretation is impossible. Reality is greater than anything religion was trying to teach us. Reality is greater than anything philosphers have ever speculated about. Reality is the everything.
(portions of this post were taken from my previous post in another forum)
Basicly, what i will do is present you a theory of how someone could attempt explaining the phenom consciousness and where the universe came from.
To understand the basics, I will simplify the theory of an ultimate multiverse. By definition the ultimate multiverse is a model of reality which describes every possible mathimatical universe. Sounds adventures, but it is a possible interpretation of quantum physics. The following I explain will be hard to understand as a logical being within our universe, due to how our brain works. Forget everything about physics and logic you know for a brief moment, it will make sense if you understand. (hopefully)
The words I use are non-scientific definitions and only an abstract way to visualize the model for people who are not familiar with it.
Imagine nothing. Now imagine a dot. Congratulations, you have reached the zeroth dimension (be careful here, the word dimension has nothing to do with the mathimatical term dimension, it is similar though). The dot, what might it be? Well, we will define it as information. The dot does not exist as a dot, it doesn't exist within space or time, it purely is information. It does not contain information, it IS information. Whatever you might imagine now, it is not what it is.
Now, imagine the dot running forward, it creates a line. The line doesn't really exist, it is just various dots within a one dimensional path. But congratulations again, you reached the first dimension.
Take the line and move it in an additional direction. The result is a plane. Again, the plane is just a collective of the lines and the lines are just a collective of information. The plane is just an interpretation of various lines. You reached the second dimension, let's go further.
You take the plane, do as you did before and the result is space, 3rd dimension. But what if we want to go further? We take the 3rd dimension and add another direction. Well, how exactly should we interpretate whatever the result might be? Basicly, we look at our own universe and space and time. We got space right? We reached the 3rd dimension before so now... what might the 4th be? Exactly, as you probably guessed or heard from some physicist before, it is time. To imagine how that works, imagine the forth dimension as a line.
One dot of the forth dimension contains "one" 3rd dimension. That means, if we travel along on the line, we would see the 3rd dimension moving. Like a movie, you take one picture after the other until it's fluid. There you got your movement. In other words, time equals movement. (more or less, don't get cocky here)
So, what exactly does that mean to us? Well, first it means that our consciousness is able to travel alongside the 4th dimension. On the other hand it means that whatever time and space is, it actually is in the end just dots, information. Everything, no matter when it happened or will happen, it just exists in no particular order. So, the big bang is just a constellation of the 3rd dimension, as is the moment your are expiriencing right now. Time is relative, time in the end is just an interpretation of the 4th dimension. Get it? Easy, the First-Cause problem is solved. But how exactly do we explain that our consciousness is able to expirience the 4th dimension as something fluid, something constant and moving?
Well, first we should go back to the dimension. Last time you stopped at the 4th dimension and realized that it's just a line. So, what happenes if we add another direction? Sure, we would reach the 5th dimension, but what exactly does that mean? So, if we have line of the 4th dimension which contains the whole history of our universe and we take it into another direction, we basicly get another history of our universe. The 5th dimension contains every possible history of our universe. Meaning that if the 5th dimension was a line, one dot would be one possible history of the universe. But we can go further, another dimension. We reach number 6 and here it gets quite complicated. What happenes if we have every possible 5th dimension? Well, mathematically all of this gets beyond common knowledge. Simplified, the following dimensions result in altered phyiscal laws and constants, up to the point where a universe might not resemble what we define a universe as. So vastly different that our concept of logic wouldn't apply in that universe.
This theory is also called the theory of everything. And from a philosophical standpoint, it's pretty much the best science has to offer. Where did it the universe come from? There is no "coming" from because time does not exists as we understand it. But that is besides the point, back to the consciousness.
We have now understood that there are different kinds of universes, actually infinite kinds of universes. They all have different rules and natural laws, altered by the mathematical constants (information) it is made of. Well, if we take all that in perspective, our universe is one universe in which there is a second instance, a mathematical "universe" that is connected to our universe (the terms I used are highly abstract, don't take it literally). In terms of the theory of an ultimate multiverse that's really a given. There has to be such a thing. Now, obviously we still don't know anything about the "second instance", or if it even exists in our universe. But it would explain very simplified how consciousness works.
It doesn't have to be a second instance, as we know, the universe is just information, so "instances" do not really exist. If we look at quantum physics, we see things that are beyond our imagination. Things that seem logically impossible to us. Particles traveling through time, back and forth, existing and non-existing, both at the same time. And then there is observation. Measuring something creates reactions within our universive. That means the "second instance" contains information besides the pure locations of atoms and such. It contains complex processes and the most elusive thing about all that is, that the information it contains has impact in our own universe. And these things are not just theories, they happen constantly and are reproduced in laboratories. Everything that happens in our universe (or basicly happened, as time is irrelevant) is "written" down somewhere else (again, don't take it literally).
Now imagine our physical universe. Basicly everything you know about: Space, time, atoms, chemical processes etc. image it as one bubble. The bubble is made out of information, so the position of every atom at any given time, the amount of energy at any given moment is all just information in one big bubble.
Now you have a bubble around the "physical-universe" bubble. Every single process within the first bubble is reviewed in the second bubble. The relation of every single element of the universe. In the second bubble there is also our consciousness. Like an electron that knows it is being observed (the observation is part of the information within the second bubble) the brain activities are similar processes that are observed in/by the second bubble. Every single process in the universe is processed (in the second bubble) in a certain and very specific way (depending on the given laws). For example, if an electron is observed the second bubble changes the first bubble and while doing that it changes the behaviour of that electron (this is just a model, it does not do that in realtime because it already happened/exists, remember time is relevant).
What happenes with the brain is basicly the same. The processes within our brain are sent into the second bubble, where they are interpretated as feelings, as colors, smell etc. and those feelings cause reactions in the first bubble. This is why your brain actually processes the colors. It is not just an observant of the brain processes, but also interacts with it. It is directly connected.
Why are certain processes in our brain interepretated as colors? Basicly, this is one of infinite possiblities which actually exist. In another universe with other laws and constants, other systems for interpretation, smells are maybe interpretated as colors, colors interpretated as smells etc. something that would make complex life impossible. Our consciousness is not made by our brain, it is made by the information of our brain processes. If an animal feels pain, in other words if the brain sends the signals for pain, there will be a consciousness that actually feels the pain. It is not the other way around, where you would ask if something could feel pain if it has no consciousness. The pain creates consciousness.
This is how it works (likely, atleast in a similar way) in our universe. There are many universes in which consciousness may not even exist or work in a totally different fashion. Creating other forms of life or none.
If we would express all of that in math, we would have certain formulars and numbers that happen to explain the universe we live in. The most impressive thing is, that every possible arrangement of numbers and formulars does exist. Our universe does not look like it does because it is convinient like that, it does because every form of universe does exist. Our universe has consciousness that actually "travels" from moment to moment creating a sense of time. But that's just other formulars and numbers (or information, meaning the real stuff reality is made of).
Why does it do that? Because, like I said, it is one of the infinite possibilities for an universe. It does not just "happen to exist", it has to exist, because reality is by definition infinite. Everything that is possible, even if it seems irrational and ridicilous to us, does exist.
So, consciousness is in other words just something that takes the information from the universe and interpretates it in a certain way (depending on the laws it has). In our universe time does not exists, neither does space. It is our abstract way to describe it or the way the consciousness resembles it. It is almost like watching a movie. On the bluray the whole film is written down. The film does exists as a whole. A bluray-player (the consciousness) can play the movie in a certain way. It could do it backwards, forward, slowmotion, black and white and even fast foward. It can skip around if it wants to. But it cannot change the bluray. The bluray, the film, just exists as something permanent outside of time. The bluray is our universe and the bluray-player our consciousness. How the bluray is interpretated depends on the bluray-player and it's functions. If we take it back to reality, there are infinite blurays (physical universes) and infinite bluray-players (forms of consciousness). All with different movies (laws of nature, constants etc.) and functions of the player (interepretation of colors, feelings etc).
But there are also infinite rooms (universes as a whole), some have no bluray-players at all and others may have something completely different.
Just so you know, in another room there is currently someone watching the same movie you are watching, maybe he is currently where you are, maybe he is in the future, maybe he is at your 5th birthday. Well, actually with most certainity, with every certainity, there is such a person (consciousness). Not just one, but infinite. All watching the same you are watching, feeling the same emotions. And if you die, there is no reason why there wouldn't be the same consciousness again. Repeating your life or another life again and again and again. The same person watching every movie ever made, living the life of every being existing in every possible universe. We are not talking about chances here, we are talking about certainity. In reality, every possible universe does exist meaning that life and death are just concepts. There is no end and there is no beginning, nor for a consciousness neither for a universe. It just exists, forever and infinite times.
Once you understand the concept, you will understand reality (atleast in one possible way). It is actually quite simple, you don't even have to understand physics. Physics are just used to describe our universe. If we get to far away from what we know, the formulars start to become so abstract that every interepretation is impossible. Reality is greater than anything religion was trying to teach us. Reality is greater than anything philosphers have ever speculated about. Reality is the everything.
(portions of this post were taken from my previous post in another forum)