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Elementary particles

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:59 pm
by Cerveny
How many dimensions has an elementary particle (say an electron)?

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:31 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
If the universe has three, then the same should be true of the elementary particle, spacewise.

PhilX

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:51 am
by hammock
Cerveny wrote:How many dimensions has an elementary particle (say an electron)?

Depends upon what conceptual scheme or model is being used as context. A conventional one might depict the electron as a point particle devoid of any spatial extension. Whereas string theory might describe it as one dimensional. Another might represent it as a wave.

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:28 pm
by Impenitent
the monads are rolling over the irremovable goggles...

then again...

-Imp

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:41 pm
by HexHammer
..so much phail..

Think it was boiled down to 8 dimensions, but my good parrot Blaggy might postulate 11.

By watching this painful thread, I would say we should divide this forum into 2 categories of users, cozy chatters and philosophers.

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:52 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
HexHammer wrote:..so much phail..

Think it was boiled down to 8 dimensions, but my good parrot Blaggy might postulate 11.

By watching this painful thread, I would say we should divide this forum into 2 categories of users, cozy chatters and philosophers.
Pray tell, in which would you belong?

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:55 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
Cerveny wrote:How many dimensions has an elementary particle (say an electron)?
I always thought three; as the result, so its constituents. Simplistic, I know, but doesn't time and space demand such.

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:35 am
by Cerveny
To be more precise: Does particle have the time dimension?

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:54 pm
by HexHammer
In order to exist, it must adhere the rules of dimensions.

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:13 pm
by Cerveny
The time is changing by (Planck) steps - elementary particle exists or it does not exist. In opposite case elementary particle should have had zero time size - hence it could not exist or it should have had four dimensions - hence it should have (generally) variable four-volume. As I have already written, I am quite certain the real infinities (infinity smoothness) or divergences are logical nonsenses and the structure of space/time must be grained...

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:57 pm
by HexHammer
Do you take account for Higgs Boson and Super Stings?

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:03 am
by Cerveny
HexHammer wrote:Do you take account for Higgs Boson and Super Stings?
Strings are stillborn logical construction and Higgs bosons are, I think, the desperate construction too. Quite new view at reality is necessary :( At the phenomenon of "time", particularly)

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:15 am
by HexHammer
Cerveny wrote:Strings are stillborn logical construction and Higgs bosons are, I think, the desperate construction too. Quite new view at reality is necessary :( At the phenomenon of "time", particularly)
How excatly can you dismiss Strings and Higgs!?
Least Higgs are proven.

Re: Elementary particles

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:57 am
by Cerveny
HexHammer wrote:
Cerveny wrote:Strings are stillborn logical construction and Higgs bosons are, I think, the desperate construction too. Quite new view at reality is necessary :( At the phenomenon of "time", particularly)
How excatly can you dismiss Strings and Higgs!?
Least Higgs are proven.
The best criteria of the truth appears to be just the practices. Super strings are not even criticized now ("not even wrong") and Higgs bosons do not address any urgent problem (see please my previous posts) of present physics (use Occam razor) :(