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Yeah black holes rexamined as forms of evolved certainty.the singularity beond all event happenings is unmoving certainty which never happened or ever will happen.its the exact same indistinuishble certainty that exists in quatum mechanics.and that involves its self as consciousness the stationary measurer of c the omni limit.

jackles wrote:Yeah black holes rexamined as forms of evolved certainty.the singularity beond all event happenings is unmoving certainty which never happened or ever will happen.its the exact same indistinuishble certainty that exists in quatum mechanics.and that involves its self as consciousness the stationary measurer of c the omni limit.

Wo, wo, slow down a bit jackles. You don't think you are going a bit overboard with this?

Ha yes sorry ginkgo.ive gone completly non bloomin local mate.boooomin henry .ha

jackles wrote:... its the exact same indistinuishble certainty that exists in quatum mechanics.and that involves its self as consciousness the stationary measurer of c the omni limit.

Does the cat-feeder still dispense cat-food when the cat is not about?

We still only known when the imformation reaches us if the cat has eaten.if the imformation indicates that the cat is living well and eating then it is.

jackles wrote:We still only known when the imformation reaches us if the cat has eaten.if the imformation indicates that the cat is living well and eating then it is.

Nothing to do with the cat anymore, my question is - if you looked into the room would you see piles of cat-food or not?

Hello!?

Piles of cat-food or not?

Forgotten the context of the question there rooster. But ill take guess amd say yes. The rooms fuller kity kat.

Then apparently one does not need a consciousness to measure the speed of light.

Yes but its consciousness thats a visa versas to its self in a statioary way to the limit speed c.

jackles wrote:Yes but its consciousness thats a visa versas to its self in a statioary way to the limit speed c.

So how is it that the machine I describe manages to be stationary to the speed limit of light? As it only gives cat-food if the speed matches the speed stored in its database, which is the speed of light as measures by your 'stationary' 'consciousness'.

You said it arising.when the machine is inspected in consciousness it is found to be stationary to that measurment in consciousness.

jackles wrote:You said it arising.when the machine is inspected in consciousness it is found to be stationary to that measurment in consciousness.

But yet the machine I described is measuring the speed of light first, no consciousness involved and never inspected by a consciousness, the only evidence that the machine is measuring the speed of light is the piles of cat-food that you agree would be there.

Consciousness then gets aware on the discovery of the piles of cat food that the limit was measured on seeing catfood..limit is just a limit that consciousness is always stationary to on knowing that it has been measured.

jackles wrote:Consciousness then gets aware on the discovery of the piles of cat food that the limit was measured on seeing catfood..limit is just a limit that consciousness is always stationary to on knowing that it has been measured.

How would you account for finding rotting cat-food? Or are you saying it'd always be fresh when measured?
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Although I understand what you say when you say it's the seeing of the food that confirms that the speed of light was measured this does not refute that the speed was measured by a non-conscious object and so your argument that such a measurement depends upon a consciousness is false.