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Hitting a phone battery with a hammer:



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A laptop battery contains roughly the stored energy of a hand grenade.




...tell me again why I can't carry 4oz of bottled water or 4oz of hair gel onto a plane?







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Bill Wiltrack wrote:...
...tell me again why I can't carry 4oz of bottled water or 4oz of hair gel onto a plane?[/size]

Because some numbnut invented fluid explosives and we can't wait around all day testing every bottle.

You think you can smuggle a hammer on board?

Arising_uk wrote: Because some numbnut invented fluid explosives and we can't wait around all day testing every bottle.

You think you can smuggle a hammer on board?

Even if there are fluid explosives, it's still not ethically right or professional to ban water bottles in airports. 'Terrorism' is nothing more than a justification for greater tyranny.

They don't ban water bottles in airports, they ban you from bringing any in from outside.

Terrorism is also people blowing the shit out of you for a perceived cause. Tell you what, we should run two airlines, one where no checks are made due to not wanting tyranny and one where such tyranny presides. I know which I'll be flying on.

Arising_uk wrote:They don't ban water bottles in airports, they ban you from bringing any in from outside.

Water from 'outside' is same as water from 'inside'. Makes no difference.

Arising_uk wrote: Terrorism is also people blowing the shit out of you for a perceived cause. Tell you what, we should run two airlines, one where no checks are made due to not wanting tyranny and one where such tyranny presides. I know which I'll be flying on.

Suit yourself. However, please let me present you some food for thought of what happens when there is a bit 'too much' security, as I should say.

Google search: TSA gropes children: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ts ... s+children
TSA Finally Investigating Cancer Risk of X-Ray Body Scanners: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... y-scanners
Fully Briefed: Can TSA Read Your Documents, Threaten False Arrest, Lie About Checkpoint Video?: http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2 ... int-video/
The TSA is now searching your personal records before you get to the airport: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/22/4865 ... ing-system

WanderingLands wrote:Water from 'outside' is same as water from 'inside'. Makes no difference.

Apart from the water outside that is liquid explosive that is.

Suit yourself. However, please let me present you some food for thought of what happens when there is a bit 'too much' security, as I should say.

Google search: TSA gropes children: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ts ... s+children
TSA Finally Investigating Cancer Risk of X-Ray Body Scanners: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... y-scanners
Fully Briefed: Can TSA Read Your Documents, Threaten False Arrest, Lie About Checkpoint Video?: http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2 ... int-video/
The TSA is now searching your personal records before you get to the airport: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/22/4865 ... ing-system

To be honest I don't really care what you do in America as I've had no intention of visiting ever since I was younger and discovered that they'd be taking my fingerprints if I went, Land of the Free indeed.

Arising_uk wrote:Apart from the water outside that is liquid explosive that is.

I've never heard of stories about there being attacks involving "liquid explosives". Even if there was so, it still would not bring justification to ban outside water bottles, just because a few people would attempt to do so.

To be honest I don't really care what you do in America as I've had no intention of visiting ever since I was younger and discovered that they'd be taking my fingerprints if I went, Land of the Free indeed.

I'm talking about airport security in general, as in security that involves ridiculous rules such as prohibiting water bottles and other things that I've brought up against "security", so this is a fallacious statement. I don't really see how the airports in Britain would be much better than those in America.

WanderingLands wrote:I've never heard of stories about there being attacks involving "liquid explosives". Even if there was so, it still would not bring justification to ban outside water bottles, just because a few people would attempt to do so.

One would be more than enough but you are allowed to take water on-board, you've just got to buy it on the other side of the security cordon.

I'm talking about airport security in general, as in security that involves ridiculous rules such as prohibiting water bottles and other things that I've brought up against "security", so this is a fallacious statement. I don't really see how the airports in Britain would be much better than those in America.

Like I say, we should have two systems then and I know which I'll be flying on.