Philosophy Now Forum

is heisenbergs uncertainty principle a nonlocal law.or in other words a law that eminates from nonlocality into and and inflicts its self on a location that is in consciouse observation.consciousness and nonlocation would then have a close relationship in any observation.for example measuring the speed of light.

It's a principal not a law, it merely states when you measure anything, the energy you impart to a system will disturb it so that certainty about it is impossible.

Look at it this way you are a man observing the ripples on a pond but you are blind, so to know how to perceive the ripples you need to touch them, when you do of course you impart ripples of your own to the system disturbing what was hence the original pattern of ripples.

It's not local or non local it's just how things happen, it could be either depending on what interpretation you favour.





If we take the analogy to a logical place, there is a ripple or a wave, what would you imagine to happen if you imparted energy to that wave with your "finger"?



Let's call this one 6 interacting waves? Stick your "touch" measurement in, what happens?

no blags the energy exchange is a local event because the observer is looking.looking is a local event.the princple its self is controling the event as a law.and the law is nonlocal.nonlocality is controling the event.we see it as a principle from our local stand point but it is in reality nonlocality.nonlocality does not investigate its self.the local observer causes the principle to present its self by looking the exact same principle that is at work in the collaps of the wave function in the light ex.both are the result of a fictional mind that cant no an absolute fact.because absolute fact doesnt happen and its of its self is nonlocal.the absolute fact exists but its nonlocal to any event.its presenting the local event so cant view it at one in the same moment as looking at it.

Well entanglement is not local so if you change one system by measuring it the other changes relatively, that is a non local form of uncertainty. Not really sure what you are saying, but at face value it sounds right, at least as it regards local phenomena...

Absolute fact is a philosophical argument, usually touted by those who are religious, and like to explain that what God knows if he knows anything and we don't is absolute fact, clearly absolute anything has no meaning in science though.

no the entanglment is local blags but its this localised entanglment thats showing up the nonlocal eliment.it exists but doesnt exist just like relativity .it exist but doent exist.thats why im saying that they nonlocality and relativity are indistinguishable.they are the same underlying mover.regs jackles

nonlocality = energy =relativity= nonlocality the cause and mover is nolocality.nonlocality =consciousness