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light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:26 pm
by jackles
yes thats right does light move .does it create a reference frame of time space for its existance.so everythings movin but not the photon.it may be that the photon splits a dimension into time space to give room.
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:05 pm
by Blaggard
yes light moves jackles I don't know where you fish these questions up from but it propagates, we would all be blind if it did not.
Time is undefined for light, some people make the mistake that that means it does not travel in space time or that it is everywhere at once, they should go back to school.

Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:27 pm
by jackles
yes just been watching a utube on it.sounds convincing enough.its says the photon of its self does not move in its own dimension but appears to be moving from our perspective.
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:36 pm
by Blaggard
Hmm yeah don't watch pop science TV if you really want to understand anything listen to the man himself. Einstein said that to discuss the motion and time concerns of a photon is meaningless because it is undefined, and in maths and science that means it is unknown not that it magically is something else.
It's own dimension is time and space and it moves but to discuss its mathematical properties is to disappear like Alice through the looking glass into mathematical and scientific abstraction that is meaningless.
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:56 pm
by jackles
yeah i agree with what your saying blags.but instict tells me theres some truth hiden in there.i mean the universe was or must have been entangled at the begining of the happening event.
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:09 pm
by Blaggard
Well as with all science concerns you're welcome to prove it. Otherwise it's just another in a long line of bad science that is associated with Einstein's SR>
You should probably have posted the link to the youtube thing by the way...
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:24 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Blaggard wrote:Well as with all science concerns you're welcome to prove it. Otherwise it's just another in a long line of bad science that is associated with Einstein's SR>
You should probably have posted the link to the youtube thing by the way...
That's true. Someone's random idea meanst squat without evidence.
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:07 pm
by jackles
no this idea hits at the root of things.the root is timespace before happened happened .before time space was time space was tao.and then there was light and time and space was.room existed for the event to happen in.
Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:10 pm
by Blaggard
No this idea is a mess of people using faulty science to speculate on faulty reasoning. It hits only at the heart of those who don't really understand science, and have no idea what it's about and want to make it magic. No offence jackles but from what you have said it's just word salad.
Before time and space is meaningless, the universe came to be from a singularity and then time and space existed, to talk about before is of course philosophically interesting, but if you are going to use science theories to explain it it becomes pointless. If you'll pardon the pun.

Re: light does it move
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:22 pm
by jackles
must agree.but tao is a name for singularity.same meaning.time space is a ratio of a differential in a singularity.just i like to call that singularity .tao