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I wondered if anyone knew that if they ever lived abroad and did anything like adopt one or more children while they were abroad that if the situation came down to an embassy evacuation they may have to leave one or more of their children behind because they happened to hold citizenship in certain country but their adopted children do not. In the case of anyone who either took their dog or cat with them when moving overseas or were "adopted" by a stray kitten or cat, puppy or dog while they were abroad, if they were in a situation where it came down to an embassy evacuation, they may also have to leave their pets or "nonhuman companions" behind since they either couldn't get the required veterinary paperwork completed in time or the animals may supposedly "take up too much room" in the evacuation convoy, sealift or airlift. In a way I may find that this was also "just so wrong" on so many levels.

I'm not going there!
Hell, I don't even fly anymore.
And if I ever did go anywhere, I sure wouldn't take my cats (They're lousy travellers. Not like ErictheRed - he was terrific; took everything in stride.) And if I ever adopted a kid (which is unlikely), I'd spirit him or her out of the country long before the airlift.
What the hell are you on about?

Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:I wondered if anyone knew that if they ever lived abroad and did anything like adopt one or more children while they were abroad that if the situation came down to an embassy evacuation they may have to leave one or more of their children behind because they happened to hold citizenship in certain country but their adopted children do not.

When it comes to either a rapid or a slow, methodical fleeing in general [of which "evacuation" would only be one subset of]...

On the basis of vague recollection, seems like it was Chanyang's family that escaped from North Korea one individual at a time, to lessen alarming the authorities. With Chanyang being the final member, left to fend on her own (as a younger daughter back then). So apparently a Kantian duty scheme of "damn the contingent, empirical circumstances and just do what's universally right" wasn't involved; but instead a non-global principled, condition-based "sometimes ya' just gotta do whatcha gotta do" philosophy.

Secret State of North Korea: ...And there’s Chanyang, the 22-year-old woman who now appears on a weekly South Korean TV show featuring North Korean defectors that is a hot commodity across the border. “My friends back home watch it, and all the children of the party officials in North Korea watch it and say they will defect,” she tells FRONTLINE.

You have for some months asked the essentially the same question over and over, why this compulsive behaviour?