Philosophy Now Forum

did gravity time space and matter exist before the big bang happened.i reckon they did but they those forces hadnt happened yet.they existed without happening.they were things that were going to happen from a state of never happened.and does that state of never happened still exist.i reckon it does as an omni presents to happen.criky! it the omni presents that never happened causes happen to happen.criky! a nonlocality caused and causes a locality.

jackles wrote:did gravity time space and matter exist before the big bang happened.i reckon they did but they those forces hadnt happened yet.they existed without happening.they were things that were going to happen from a state of never happened.and does that state of never happened still exist.i reckon it does as an omni presents to happen.criky! it the omni presents that never happened causes happen to happen.criky! a nonlocality caused and causes a locality.

Perhaps God formed from chaos...a place where there is no logic and hence the questions posed are totally inept.

you dont think somthing can exist without first happening then fishpi.ha ha!

jackles wrote:did gravity time space and matter exist before the big bang happened.i reckon they did but they those forces hadnt happened yet.they existed without happening.they were things that were going to happen from a state of never happened.and does that state of never happened still exist.i reckon it does as an omni presents to happen.criky! it the omni presents that never happened causes happen to happen.criky! a nonlocality caused and causes a locality.

The question itself is illogical did space and time exist before space and time existed. Come on Jackles you are going to have to do better than that my Gosportonian friend.

you misunderstand what i mean blags. if energy happened from never happened .then time and space didnt need to happen they are just a happening way of looking at never happen.time and space didnt need to happen they already existed before energy happened.so energy is local and happening.where as time space is nonlocal and never needed to happened.relativity between objects is therefor nonlocal.there for consciousness of relativity is nonlocal.consciousness is nonlocal to the energy event.regs jackles.

jackles wrote:you dont think somthing can exist without first happening then fishpi.ha ha!

No. If there is no logic then effectually there is nothing.

yes but your logic comes from the energy of a happening event the brain.the time and space for that energy to exist in exists without having to happen.the local brain energy inside a nonlocal time space

Its this perpetually. The background gamma radiation. Remnant of the big bang.

Jackles you are babbling again, I have no idea what you are talking about..?

Is non local code for magic? Because you seem to use it in that sense.

yes blags nonlocality is magic.magic does not move. its sizeless there is no closing speed for magic.yes there is only one magic in all reference frames for all observers past present and future.magic is omni present tenslessness.so say a prayer to nonlocality as it existed before any events existed and will exist when all events have stoped happening.

jackles wrote:yes blags nonlocality is magic.magic does not move. its sizeless there is no closing speed for magic.yes there is only one magic in all reference frames for all observers past present and future.magic is omni present tenslessness.so say a prayer to nonlocality as it existed before any events existed and will exist when all events have stoped happening.

...and i thought i saw a black hole...but no...there is magic.