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The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:49 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Through science & the breakdown of the bicameral mind we have effectively eliminated time and space.


We have created a one world economy.

We will be continuing to expand a one world government.

We are beginning to understand that we all share the same biosphere. We all must share and protect our only earth and all of her inhabitants.


In a new humanity will we be able to be more conscious of ourselves...more self-conscious of our not-selves and less attached?




More empathy?


More civility?



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Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:53 pm
by Impenitent
more radiation

-Imp

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:40 am
by volatileworld
I think that we are arriving at what Hegel called Absolute Knowing :) My project on it:
https://www.academia.edu/7347240/Our_Co ... _Dialectic

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:06 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Did you write that?


If you did why?





Where is the conclusion & why wasn't it included in the original text?




What do you do?



Where do you live?



How old are you?







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Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:13 pm
by Ginkgo
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




Did you write that?


If you did why?





Where is the conclusion & why wasn't it included in the original text?





Perhaps it is a working paper.


Bill Wiltrack wrote:

What do you do?



Where do you live?



How old are you?






Bill, what do these questions have to do with his dissertation? Or are you just curious?

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:06 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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I wanted to see beneath his dissertation...




No one here is going to read the entire work no matter how much time we have available to waste.




I looked for the author's conclusion almost immediately because if you actually brief the paper you can feel that the focus is convoluted. Baffling with bullshit is a phrase that comes to mind.




I just wanted to get a feel for who this person is and in what stage of life.








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Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:55 pm
by Ginkgo
It does deal with a lot of themes. However, just because you find it baffling doesn't make it BS. It is actually quite readable if you make your way though it.

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:36 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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OK, what did you take from it?


What is your conclusion?





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Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:57 pm
by Ginkgo
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



OK, what did you take from it?


What is your conclusion?





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I'm about half way through so I don't have a conclusion, but I do have a take on it.

I think it is a metaphysical explanation for the nature of reality. In other posts I mentioned it had parallels with the Hameroff-Penrose thesis and quantum consciousness. I did mention Godel and Orch_OR in my response to Greylorn.

The Hameroff-Penrose thesis is incomplete because it takes into account observations and experiments of a scientific nature while at the same time exploring the metaphysical implications. When we use philosophers such as Kant, Hegel, Plato in order to explain the nature of reality we are doing metaphysics, so it is possible to put forward a coherent thesis and this is probably what is happening in the case of Volatileworld. This is basically what metaphysical ontology does.

At this stage it appears to be theory of quantum consciousness.

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:01 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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Thanks. I think I have a take on what both you and the original poster actually understand now.




...especially the 1, 2, & 3 part.





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Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:09 am
by Ginkgo
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



Thanks. I think I have a take on what both you and the original poster actually understand now.




...especially the 1, 2, & 3 part.





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Yes I think the theory raises more questions than it answers, so I see the rationalwiki highlighting some important objections. Nonetheless, some of these objections can be answered.

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:10 am
by The Voice of Time
You've never read Hegel? People change all the time x)

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:57 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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...............................If people change all the time then, can you unread Hegel?



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Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:52 pm
by The Voice of Time
Uhm... I guess I could at my best try to ignore what Hegel read, but no, you can't "unread" somebody, everything you read is stuck inside of you in some way or another.

Re: The Coming Change of Consciousness?

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:24 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Really?...When you undressed yesterday, what were you wearing?



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