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Does anyone ever feel this glorious feeling, or simply feeling of glory, in the act of self-expression that occurs when you scream, metaphorically or literally, out into the world your innerness so strong the ending is almost "epic" and leaves you with a feeling of valuelessness, but a great valuelessness, like the breaking of chains and the revolution of the social perception you were bound to share of yourself as part of an understanding of yourself in the light of other people's eyes?

Like the beginning, or perhaps ending, of a war against the ideas other people have of you or you have of yourself, and the taste of hard-fought victory that lingers in the mouth like sugary blood.

... PS: this feeling might not ascend to consciousness before the "heat of the battle" has allowed to cool

Yes. It's called natural selection.

John K wrote:Yes. It's called natural selection.

If it were to have a name, I think "natural selection" is already taken and too general.

The Voice of Time wrote:Does anyone ever feel this... feeling of glory, in the act of self-expression that occurs when you scream, metaphorically or literally, out into the world your innerness so strong the ending is almost "epic" and leaves you with a feeling of valuelessness,...

but a great valuelessness, like the breaking of chains and the revolution of the social perception you were bound to share of yourself as part of an understanding of yourself in the light of other people's eyes?

Like the beginning, or perhaps ending, of a war against the ideas other people have of you or you have of yourself, and the taste of hard-fought victory that lingers in the mouth like sugary blood.

... PS: this feeling might not ascend to consciousness before the "heat of the battle" has allowed to cool

So, you scream out your 'innerness' - an intense feeling of glory after beating someone, or overcoming self-perception - and it leaves you feeling valueless?
Is that what you are saying?
I don't understand why would you feel valueless - perhaps because 'self-glory' is meaningless?
A false 'glory' - the adding of self-esteem by a lessening of others, and not recognised by others?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzoUu7w-YM

-Imp

so he streaks out his glory...
...guess you could call him unique!

marjoramblues wrote:So, you scream out your 'innerness'

This is a metaphor about the uniqueness of each individual and their proclamation to be treated for their particular uniqueness, not generalized or maltreated.

marjoramblues wrote: - an intense feeling of glory after beating someone

That's written as if you are equating it to the previous sentence. That's wrong. Instead it's about the glory coming as a by-product of the actions.

marjoramblues wrote:or overcoming self-perception

the "or" is malplaced. Overcoming the perception other and you yourself have over yourself is what the action is all about.

marjoramblues wrote: - and it leaves you feeling valueless?

Not as in "not worth anything", but as in the moment after having unchained oneself and not having any particular knowledge about where one should go as one has for so long been accustomed to where one has chained down, one doesn't immediately understand the value of different directions, so the world becomes valueless, but entirely valueless, not negative or positive.

marjoramblues wrote:Is that what you are saying?

Following my corrections you get there.

marjoramblues wrote:I don't understand why would you feel valueless - perhaps because 'self-glory' is meaningless?
A false 'glory' - the adding of self-esteem by a lessening of others, and not recognised by others?

Wrong direction of thought.

OK, then.
I'll just get back to defrosting the freezer...

So...
Er...
How often and where do you get these swings from Glory Screams to Neutral then ?

marjoramblues wrote:So...
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How often and where do you get these swings from Glory Screams to Neutral then ?

Hehe, we're talking about rare moments x) Can go years without, and then suddenly a year with several. It depends upon one's life I suppose, how much swing there is in it.

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