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Obama's rogue state

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:20 pm
by Arising_uk
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -every-law

"You could almost pity these people. For 67 years successive US governments have resisted calls to reform the UN security council. They've defended a system which grants five nations a veto over world affairs, reducing all others to impotent spectators. They have abused the powers and trust with which they have been vested. They have collaborated with the other four permanent members (the UK, Russia, China and France) in a colonial carve-up, through which these nations can pursue their own corrupt interests at the expense of peace and global justice.

Eighty-three times the US has exercised its veto. On 42 of these occasions it has done so to prevent Israel's treatment of the Palestinians being censured. On the last occasion, 130 nations supported the resolution but Barack Obama spiked it. Though veto powers have been used less often since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the US has exercised them 14 times in the interim (in 13 cases to shield Israel), while Russia has used them nine times. Increasingly the permanent members have used the threat of a veto to prevent a resolution being discussed. They have bullied the rest of the world into silence.

Through this tyrannical dispensation – created at a time when other nations were either broken or voiceless – the great warmongers of the past 60 years remain responsible for global peace. The biggest weapons traders are tasked with global disarmament. Those who trample international law control the administration of justice.

But now, as the veto powers of two permanent members (Russia and China) obstruct its attempt to pour petrol on another Middle Eastern fire, the US suddenly decides that the system is illegitimate. Obama says: "If we end up using the UN security council not as a means of enforcing international norms and international law, but rather as a barrier … then I think people rightly are going to be pretty skeptical about the system." Well, yes.

Never have Obama or his predecessors attempted a serious reform of this system. Never have they sought to replace a corrupt global oligarchy with a democratic body. Never do they lament this injustice – until they object to the outcome. The same goes for every aspect of global governance.

Obama warned last week that Syria's use of poisoned gas "threatens to unravel the international norm against chemical weapons embraced by 189 nations". Unravelling the international norm is the US president's job.

In 1997 the US agreed to decommission the 31,000 tonnes of sarin, VX, mustard gas and other agents it possessed within 10 years. In 2007 it requested the maximum extension of the deadline permitted by the Chemical Weapons Convention – five years. Again it failed to keep its promise, and in 2012 it claimed they would be gone by 2021. Russia yesterday urged Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control. Perhaps it should press the US to do the same.

In 1998 the Clinton administration pushed a law through Congress which forbade international weapons inspectors from taking samples of chemicals in the US and allowed the president to refuse unannounced inspections. In 2002 the Bush government forced the sacking of José Maurício Bustani, the director general of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. He had committed two unforgiveable crimes: seeking a rigorous inspection of US facilities; and pressing Saddam Hussein to sign the Chemical Weapons Convention, to help prevent the war George Bush was itching to wage.

The US used millions of gallons of chemical weapons in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. It also used them during its destruction of Falluja in 2004, then lied about it. The Reagan government helped Saddam Hussein to wage war with Iran in the 1980s while aware that he was using nerve and mustard gas. (The Bush administration then cited this deployment as an excuse to attack Iraq, 15 years later).

Smallpox has been eliminated from the human population, but two nations – the US and Russia – insist on keeping the pathogen in cold storage. They claim their purpose is to develop defences against possible biological weapons attack, but most experts in the field consider this to be nonsense. While raising concerns about each other's possession of the disease, they have worked together to bludgeon the other members of the World Health Organisation, which have pressed them to destroy their stocks.

In 2001 the New York Times reported that, without either Congressional oversight or a declaration to the Biological Weapons Convention, "the Pentagon has built a germ factory that could make enough lethal microbes to wipe out entire cities". The Pentagon claimed the purpose was defensive but, developed in contravention of international law, it didn't look good. The Bush government also sought to destroy the Biological Weapons Convention as an effective instrument by scuttling negotiations over the verification protocol required to make it work.

Looming over all this is the great unmentionable: the cover the US provides for Israel's weapons of mass destruction. It's not just that Israel – which refuses to ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention – has used white phosphorus as a weapon in Gaza (when deployed against people, phosphorus meets the convention's definition of "any chemical which through its chemical action on life processes can cause death, temporary incapacitation or permanent harm").

It's also that, as the Washington Post points out: "Syria's chemical weapons stockpile results from a never-acknowledged gentleman's agreement in the Middle East that as long as Israel had nuclear weapons, Syria's pursuit of chemical weapons would not attract much public acknowledgement or criticism." Israel has developed its nuclear arsenal in defiance of the non-proliferation treaty, and the US supports it in defiance of its own law, which forbids the disbursement of aid to a country with unauthorised weapons of mass destruction.

As for the norms of international law, let's remind ourselves where the US stands. It remains outside the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court, after declaring its citizens immune from prosecution. The crime of aggression it committed in Iraq – defined by the Nuremberg tribunal as "the supreme international crime" – goes not just unpunished but also unmentioned by anyone in government. The same applies to most of the subsidiary war crimes US troops committed during the invasion and occupation. Guantánamo Bay raises a finger to any notions of justice between nations.

None of this is to exonerate Bashar al-Assad's government – or its opponents – of a long series of hideous crimes, including the use of chemical weapons. Nor is it to suggest that there is an easy answer to the horrors in Syria.

But Obama's failure to be honest about his nation's record of destroying international norms and undermining international law, his myth-making about the role of the US in world affairs, and his one-sided interventions in the Middle East, all render the crisis in Syria even harder to resolve. Until there is some candour about past crimes and current injustices, until there is an effort to address the inequalities over which the US presides, everything it attempts – even if it doesn't involve guns and bombs – will stoke the cynicism and anger the president says he wants to quench.

During his first inauguration speech Barack Obama promised to "set aside childish things". We all knew what he meant. He hasn't done it."
G. Monbiot, Guardian, 9/9/13

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:03 pm
by spike
The UN is emblematic of the hypocrisy that is so rooted in humankind. I for one am glad it has been capture and harnessed by the UN for if it was left free and unattended in the world no telling how worse things could be.

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:11 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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I am blushing a bit and yet honored that the original poster has finally taken my advice, and in a strange yet real way, actually started a post.



Now I would like to see you imprint your own thread
with your own opinion.

* Just a small bit of advice...next time you copy & past an article, it would be nice if it were shorter. You will receive more responses. Good post though. Good topic.



- Okay! Now, let's get some of your opinions here.






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Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:17 pm
by spike
Bill seems to have lost focus. He is confused about the issue, like most people about Syria.

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:43 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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How so?



Look, there is an unstable government, that for now, is being run by a ruler that has proven to have NO regard for life.

This country, Syria, is PRODUCING chemical weapons.


Weapons that include sarin which is the most deadly agent known to be used in weapons of mass destruction.


AND they are stockpiling sarin.



THIS IS ILLEGAL
on an international scale.



On top of that Assad IS NOW USING DEADLY CHEMICAL WEAPONS.




Israel is within shouting distance of Syria.





If none of this means anything to you - go back to sleep.



...sorry to get real on ya...good night.






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Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:40 pm
by bobevenson
Bill Wiltrack wrote:Israel is within shouting distance of Syria.
SO WHAT??? WHERE IN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY THAT AMERICANS HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL FOR THE PROTECTION OF ISRAEL OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY??? MAYBE YOU AND YOUR LABOR MOVEMENT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS, BUT LEAVE ME AND MY WALLET ALONE!!!

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:05 pm
by spike

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:14 pm
by Arising_uk
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I am blushing a bit and yet honored that the original poster has finally taken my advice, and in a strange yet real way, actually started a post. ...
What a fantastical world of narcissistic self-delusion you live in.
Now I would like to see you imprint your own thread with your own opinion.
Your likes and wants are immaterial to me.
* Just a small bit of advice...next time you copy & past an article, it would be nice if it were shorter. You will receive more responses. Good post though. Good topic.
I didn't write it so how could I make it shorter? That you haven't the intellectual capacity to read a very short article is your problem not mine. I've told you before, I do not judge a post by quantity of replies and unlike you I'm not seeking gnudom.
- Okay! Now, let's get some of your opinions here.
You live in a world of delusion.

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:23 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Alright. That is a beginning. I appreciate your self-expression.


Now, could you focus upon the topic of the thread you started and form a literal opinion?



Thank you and good luck!






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Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:32 pm
by Arising_uk
My opinions about this matter are upon your other thread.

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:46 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Alright. Okay. I can see that this is as far as you want to go right now.



This is a GREAT first step.



We look forward to seeing more of your opinions and of possible future original threads.



Continued good luck to you and again...congratulations.








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Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:54 pm
by Arising_uk
:roll: Completely delusional.

Have you noticed the similarities in manner of posting between you and the other resident loons of this forum? The continual reposts, the selective reading ability, the confirmation bias, the inability to question one's beliefs when contradictions and issues are raised, etc, etc.

Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:35 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Yeah. Yeah, thank you for pointing that out to us.



You are right. Gee, I wish the world was more like you.


You are always right.




Thanks, er...if I may say so?





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Re: Obama's rogue state

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:53 pm
by spike
This is more like Bill Wiltrack's rogue state than Obama's