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Okay England...Where Are You?



Syria could be a shit storm.



We are about to address a madman. Are you with us?



I know you support the refugee. Will you stand with America on an intervention?






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........................................This is an international travesty...I can't hear you.






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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.Okay England...Where Are You?

Syria could be a shit storm.

We are about to address a madman. Are you with us?

According to our Prime Minister we're not anymore as he said he'll not be revisiting this issue. And it's not a done deal that you'll be doing anything if your public is anything to go by as they don't want troops back on the ground which they think will happen if we start missile attacks.

I know you support the refugee. Will you stand with America on an intervention?

Apparently not but I reckon there might be a revisit by MPs as Obama will put the pressure on Cameron as I suspect he did in the first place which caused us to make a rushed decision. Also, if we wait for the results from the UN inspectors then I think you'll get more chance of us helping, i.e. lending you our air-bases to strike from, but if we don't wait then I think little chance as the public remember the guff about chemical weapons being in Iraq as the reason for going in their and look at the state of that place now. That's the problem with crying wolf.

........................................This is an international travesty...I can't hear you.

Not sure about the 'international' part Bill, as we pretty much ignored international law in the last couple of 'wars' you dragged us into. It's why the public got it wrong this time as they remember the travesty still ongoing in the last ones we 'addressed'.

One point of law tho', can we legally condemn Syria over the use of chemical weapons given they are not signatories to the Chemical Weapons Convention although they are part of the Geneva Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases but I guessed they'd argue that a civil war is not a war in the Geneva sense.

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I would hope, the elimination of Assad's chemical weapons manufacturing sites.




...I'm thinkin, if Assad would kill his own people, he would not hesitate to kill you.







Or me.





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Point well taken.


As an addition to the expression of that thought, You and I as citizens of America are also citizens of the world.


America, over the years, has entered into certain agreements to help define what would be a good, responsible citizen of the world.



The production of chemical weapon in certain countries is frown upon.


Syria, producing chemical weapons creates instability throughout the world.




Thank you for adding to this dialog, and for allowing me to express this important point in relation to this thread.








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Bill the hawk?

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No. I am the most passive individual you have never met.


I will go out of my way to avoid confrontation. To a fault.




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Bill Wiltrack wrote: No. I am the most passive individual you have never met.
I will go out of my way to avoid confrontation. To a fault.

Yet you call for war?

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For reasons stated above...





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Bill, I guess you would rather have the government force people like me to pay for this fruitless escapade rather than solicit funds from people like you who are apparently only too willing to shell out the dough from their own pocket.

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Yeah. Um...THIS is people like you:



People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
~ George Orwell ~




So yeah. Somehow, someway, people who give a shit about chemical weapons being produced by an individual who uses them time & time again...even AFTER the international community told him not to eventually understand the gravity of the situation. Yeah. I give a shit.



People like you...





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Bill Wiltrack wrote:...I'm thinkin, if Assad would kill his own people, he would not hesitate to kill you.

I thought you didn't have thoughts? Still, never mind.

I'm thinking that America would not hesitate to kill me if it was in its national interest. Apparently its not been in Assads to kill me but I guess after the bombing things will change if we join in and let you use our bases.

Let's hope we know where all the stockpiles are hidden but I doubt it.

Or me.

Definitely you after you launch your cruises.

One question, why was this not an issue for America when Iraq used chemical weapons upon the Iranians during the Iran/Iraq war?

Bill Wiltrack wrote:America, over the years, has entered into certain agreements to help define what would be a good, responsible citizen of the world.

And the holding of nukes appears to be the sign of a good, responsible citizen of the world.

The production of chemical weapon in certain countries is frown upon.

You going to allow them to have nukes?

Syria, producing chemical weapons creates instability throughout the world.

How so?

Israel probably has them. You going to be attacking them if they use them to repel an attack?

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Syria has the ability to deliver, weapons of mass destruction, chemical bombs, into Israel now.


This in itself, is the threat of instability.


That's Okay, don't get your hands dirty. We'll take care of this.




Go back to bead now & enjoy your freedom.




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It is you Bill that is asleep, or rather awake and talking, but mind closed for summer. Your owners build constructs specially designed to make you talk the way you do. It is another black flag operation. If you cross red-line we come, we move red-line past you, we can come.


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