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'Superdeterminism' described by John Bell

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:33 am
by Kuznetzova
John Bell, 1985
There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and spooky action at a distance. But it involves absolute determinism in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than another, absolutely predetermined, including the "decision" by the experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than another, the difficulty disappears. There is no need for a faster than light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B, because the universe, including particle A, already "knows" what that measurement, and its outcome, will be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism

Re: 'Superdeterminism' described by John Bell

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:07 pm
by Ginkgo
Kuznetzova wrote:John Bell, 1985
There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and spooky action at a distance. But it involves absolute determinism in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than another, absolutely predetermined, including the "decision" by the experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than another, the difficulty disappears. There is no need for a faster than light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B, because the universe, including particle A, already "knows" what that measurement, and its outcome, will be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism
Interesting quote. Obviously Bell is one of the few physicists that doesn't believe philosophy should be the handmaiden of physics.


Ginkgo