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A mark of Quantum Gravity.
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The theory of gravity must begin from quantum gravity,
But we have not theory of quantum gravity and therefore
it is possible to find many theories about this subject.
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My opinion.
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To create theory of gravity ( quantum gravity ) is needed
a mass , an energy and a reference frame where the gravity
can be created.
The reference frame is a vacuum.
The condition of mass is E=kT
The condition of energy is E=h*f
Then the process of beginning of gravitation can have scheme:
h*v = kT logW.
h*v > kT logW.
h*v < kT .
About which mass am I talking ?
At first I am talking about very strange element helium II
( because its temperature very near to absolute zero ) and
then about the second layer helium I.
Later this system begins to revolve.
And again the revolving helium is very different from all another liquid.
As result of this revolving the hydrogen was created.
The scheme:
h*v -- - > He II - - > He I -- - > H ( +70%) -- - > He (ordinary +20% )
--- - > the remainder is about 2%

This explanation about helium were given by
P. Kapitza , L. Landau and E.L. Andronikashvili .
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Somewhere I wrote more about quantum gravity.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Ginkgo wrote:
I guess this is what happens when humans or animals
try to think about gravity in extra dimensions.

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Einstein's GRT is math-geometrical theory.
It doesn't explain which particles create gravity.
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Gravity in the 11 ( or maybe 27) dimensions space
perhaps is interesting math theory but it doesn't
describe which particles create gravity.
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I say that the vacuum ( space between billions and billions galaxies)
is cold kingdom T=0K. Then thinking logically the first element
which can be created from vacuum must be helium II and helium I.
But in Alice's Wonderland a simple logical thought is sounded strange.
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Quantum physics and general relativity are against each other in stark contrast:

QP: Grainy space <> GTR: Empty Space
QP: Uncertain future <> GTR: determined future
QP: Repulsive forces <> GTR: Missing gravitational repulsion

GTR can be a very limited approximation of the reality in large scales without the presence of antimatter. Moreover strongly unreliable due to the complete helplessness in relation to the "dark matter". GTR misses something like "dual gravity" (the power maintaining / generating the inertial motion) in terms of the relationship between electricity and magnetism. It should be worked on a deeper analogy of electromagnetic waves and inertial motion

One more:
Helium II is different from all another liquids.
It has ability of superconductivity, superfluidity.
And when Helium II rotates, it is not a liquid
but a solid body ( hard elastic tourniquets) !
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The process of quantum gravity can go only when the mass
of helium II is gathered in Avogadro's number of particles
( in a local place )
And when Helium II rotates it must create
Loschmidt's number of particles in a given volume.
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The process of gathering Loschmidt's number of particles in
a given volume cannot be often action. On the contrary,
the gravity process is rare in the Universe Therefore we can
read that: '' All the matter that we can see, however, appears
to be no more than about 4% of the total masses and more
than 90% in the Universe is an unseen - dark matter ''.

It is primary conditions of quantum gravity in my opinion.
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