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David Simon - Creator of the hit series The Wire


A Market Economy That Doesn't Have a Social Contract


The war on drugs; the war on the poor


I'm not sure we can distinguish anymore...


It morphed. To the point where it's really about social control.

I'm not entirely unconvinced that the war on drugs is not now largely intended to be a war on the poor... now.

At this point it's about doing something with the 15% of my country that we don't need any more for our economy. We've lost our manufacturing base and we don't need a laboring class.

There are a lot of undereducated people which the economy has thrown away.


Living in an alternate America and have no purpose. There is an existential crisis for the poor.





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All drug laws are improper and should be immediately abolished. As far as an economic imperative, it should be the responsibility of the government to see that anybody who wants a job has a job. It may not be the job, location or pay that the person wants, but 100% full employment is essential, and the government should force the sale of productive facilities to other interests to accomplish this if necessary.

bobevenson wrote:All drug laws are improper and should be immediately abolished. As far as an economic imperative, it should be the responsibility of the government to see that anybody who wants a job has a job. It may not be the job, location or pay that the person wants, but 100% full employment is essential, and the government should force the sale of productive facilities to other interests to accomplish this if necessary.

Bob, I thought that you favored free enterprise, not state socialism.

tbieter wrote:

bobevenson wrote:All drug laws are improper and should be immediately abolished. As far as an economic imperative, it should be the responsibility of the government to see that anybody who wants a job has a job. It may not be the job, location or pay that the person wants, but 100% full employment is essential, and the government should force the sale of productive facilities to other interests to accomplish this if necessary.

Bob, I thought that you favored free enterprise, not state socialism.

No, the American Energy Party (AEP) favors only private enterprise and free price. Economic infrastructure should be up for grabs, depending on the economic situation. What is inviolable is personal economic wealth, the antithesis of socialism.

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




David Simon - Creator of the hit series The Wire


A Market Economy That Doesn't Have a Social Contract


The war on drugs; the war on the poor


I'm not sure we can distinguish anymore...


It morphed. To the point where it's really about social control.

I'm not entirely unconvinced that the war on drugs is not now largely intended to be a war on the poor... now.

At this point it's about doing something with the 15% of my country that we don't need any more for our economy. We've lost our manufacturing base and we don't need a laboring class.

There are a lot of undereducated people which the economy has thrown away.


Living in an alternate America and have no purpose. There is an existential crisis for the poor.





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Great stuff, thanks for the link!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:Great stuff, thanks for the link!

Great stuff? I sure hope you don't run into somebody selling swamp land in Florida.

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:Great stuff, thanks for the link!

Great stuff? I sure hope you don't run into somebody selling swamp land in Florida.

Thank you Bob, now I know I'm on the right track. You, either, shit stirrer or swirling vortex of confusion.

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:Great stuff, thanks for the link!

Great stuff? I sure hope you don't run into somebody selling swamp land in Florida.

Thank you Bob, now I know I'm on the right track. You, either, shit stirrer or swirling vortex of confusion.

Why don't you and Bill get off that class warfare crap?

SpheresOfBalance wrote:Great stuff, thanks for the link!

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Great stuff? I sure hope you don't run into somebody selling swamp land in Florida.

Thank you Bob, now I know I'm on the right track. You, either, shit stirrer or swirling vortex of confusion.

Why don't you and Bill get off that class warfare crap?

Can you say flip-flop?

I can say flip-flop, but what are you talking about?

bobevenson wrote:I can say flip-flop, but what are you talking about?

Never mind Bob. Suffice it to say, that there are fundamental differences between our visions of the constructs of mans, so called, civilization. You see a need for an immediate revision, where I see the need further back in history.

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:I can say flip-flop, but what are you talking about?

Never mind Bob. Suffice it to say, that there are fundamental differences between our visions of the constructs of mans, so called, civilization. You see a need for an immediate revision, where I see the need further back in history.

See, you can't even explain your own stupid comment, what a joke! You see a revision needed further back in history, well that's not going to happen. Got any suggestions for today? I didn't think so, sucking up to Bill like you do.

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:I can say flip-flop, but what are you talking about?

Never mind Bob. Suffice it to say, that there are fundamental differences between our visions of the constructs of mans, so called, civilization. You see a need for an immediate revision, where I see the need further back in history.

See, you can't even explain your own stupid comment, what a joke! You see a revision needed further back in history, well that's not going to happen. Got any suggestions for today? I didn't think so, sucking up to Bill like you do.

Bob it's not worth explaining, as I don't believe, you'll get it, that's all.

Hey, if I can understand the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy," I think I can understand anything you've got to say.

bobevenson wrote:Hey, if I can understand the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy," I think I can understand anything you've got to say.

And that's my point!