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Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:23 pm
by tbieter

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:18 pm
by The Voice of Time
a bloody awful person, as far as I know. They don't call her the "Iron Lady" for nothing. There are far better feminist leaders out there by my opinion. Like current Liberian president Ellen Johnson Sirleaf or three times Norwegian prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland.
Brundtland's Second Cabinet was a minority, Labour Government of Norway. It succeeded the Conservative Willoch's Second Cabinet, and sat between 9 May 1986 and 16 October 1989. It was replaced by the Conservative/Centre/Christian Democrat cabinet Syse after the 1989 election. The cabinet was historic in that 8 of the 18 members were female, to then the highest female share in a government ever in the world.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:51 pm
by Rortabend
If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all...

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:12 pm
by The Voice of Time
Rortabend wrote:If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all...
On the contrary. People should be condemned either living or dead. Anything else is absurd and hostile to people's right to express their views on the truth of individuals. Would you ask me to shut up at the day of the death of Pol Pot or Stalin or Hitler? Should I keep my mouth shut or alternatively give them praise just because they were dead...? I'd be violently opposed to a "yes" there.

In fact, people who are dead are the ones who deserve the least respect, because they simply don't need it, they are dead.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:49 pm
by bobevenson
She was a person of more vision than anybody else in Europe. She promoted free-market capitalism and limited government (not that socialistic crap most Europeans believe in).

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:34 pm
by spike
tbieter wrote:A great feminist leader.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04 ... html?flv=1
She was not a feminist leader. In fact she infuriated feminist because she did not support the cause. To feminists she acted too much like a man, not a woman.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:43 pm
by Bill Wiltrack

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:49 pm
by spike
Bill, I wish you would take a sabbatical, one that takes years.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:39 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:51 pm
by spike
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



Why?



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Sorry, Bill, but I don't like your oversized postings and their often ugly content.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:43 pm
by Impenitent
leftist compassion is a beautiful thing...

-Imp

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:07 pm
by Arising_uk
Impenitent wrote:leftist compassion is a beautiful thing...

-Imp
A lot of people have memories of her 'compassion' and the bruises to go with it.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:31 am
by Impenitent
her compassion isn't the problem

the left screams that they are the compassionate ones (with other people's money- but that's beside the point)

-Imp

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:45 am
by Arising_uk
Impenitent wrote:her compassion isn't the problem

the left screams that they are the compassionate ones (with other people's money- but that's beside the point)

-Imp
Hmm...I disagree, her 'compassion' did not extend to those communities and families she destroyed for essentially a political ideology and a political grudge. the irony is her party is now moaning about a situation that they essentially created for a short term profit for themselves, i.e. a benefits 'culture', i.e. Marx's lumpen proles and a completely corrupt finance and banking system. Don't get me wrong, once upon a time I hated this woman with a vengeance but I've mellowed with age so, to my surprise, I won't be going to cheer at her funeral as I think the left could learn from her in having an actual political philosophy that fits the world about us and the aspirations of many of its citizens.

Re: Margaret Thatcher, R.I.P.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:03 am
by tbieter
Arising_uk wrote:
Impenitent wrote:her compassion isn't the problem

the left screams that they are the compassionate ones (with other people's money- but that's beside the point)

-Imp
Hmm...I disagree, her 'compassion' did not extend to those communities and families she destroyed for essentially a political ideology and a political grudge. the irony is her party is now moaning about a situation that they essentially created for a short term profit for themselves, i.e. a benefits 'culture', i.e. Marx's lumpen proles and a completely corrupt finance and banking system. Don't get me wrong, once upon a time I hated this woman with a vengeance but I've mellowed with age so, to my surprise, I won't be going to cheer at her funeral as I think the left could learn from her in having an actual political philosophy that fits the world about us and the aspirations of many of its citizens.
Yesterday and today on Fox I heard speakers say that when she entered office the UK unemployment rate was at 13%. When she left it was 5.8%. Did she reduce unemployment? What was your standard of living when she was in office?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployme ... ed_Kingdom