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Planet We - The 2nd visit

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:51 am
by Thozau
(One hint: To fully understand this text it is useful to first read my text "Planet We".)


All right, some more signals from Planet Tom coming in. enjoy ;-)

Sorry for this might become even more speculative because now here comes the f/x part:
We´ll have to travel within the model, leaving the present reality, moving forward into
a future far away and in the end visiting the end of time itself.

So you are going to face a hypothetical conclusion extracted from a hypothetical reality.
But i guess to open minds it can be a quite amusing 4dimensional ride with some sci-fi touch
so please do loosen your head belts. ;-)

NEXT STEP: What is missing ...?

Now you might remember in the planet model the human mind might be understood
as a dynamic planet ecosphere with 4 areas of life that tend to grow together
(thinking, acting, feeling, learning)
+ 4 atmospheric higher principles every life form (thoughts, actions, feelings, experiences)
on the planet takes life from and reaches out to (enlightment, lust, love, understanding)
+ 4 pairwise contramagnetic poles (reflection vs. passion, precision vs. empathy)
+ 2 resulting equatorial guidelines building a rectangular cross between the poles that offer
magnetically attractive growth adresses to the continental areas
(i.e. "ethics: maximize@religion_connecting.beliefs",
"estethics: maximize@art_creating.inspirations").

You might first happened to find the planet model appealing because of
that symmetric wholeness already integrated at the very first shape.
Then you might feel a little uncomfortable when adding fundamental potentials +
realized behaviours + higher principles + inner truths: 4+4+4+2.

All right, it feels there seem 2 things missing in the end. Is that so? If yes, where are they?
It is the 4th group, the one of inner truths, that carries only 2 variables until now:
the equatorial lines (ethics, estethics). So what could be the answer?
Something that cannot be described on a plain map...?

DEVELOPMENT ONE: Space - a new dimension

See, the planet model i told about was only the very basic pattern, a 2dimensional map.
But i was thinking about round spheres and not circles - so that map can not be understood
as a functionable analogy for human mind.

We exist in patterns of 3dimensional causality (... ah, "causality"... "one event happens AFTER
or BECAUSE OF another" and stuff ... so in fact human existence is 4 dimensional for we have
to make time count! ... True, but let´s not speed this up too fast, please.).
So i happened to not explain in my first mail the z-axis of the more proper map.
i will do that later on today.

But for now to make this go a little faster i will describe it not on the model of Planet Tom
but some hypothetical, highly developed individual called "Mr. Universal"
(or "Mrs.", whatever you prefer).

Ok, let´s close in and have a detailed glimpse at Mr. Universals planet drifting lonely
through seemingly empty space.

It has quite large and developed continents connected with broad continental bridges
on the front side. They still grow together, associating the image of 4 zips slowly shutting
from the outside to the center. Interesting thing: The ocean looks quite small now and forms
some rough kind of graphic "+" symbol. But what about that ocean getting smaller and smaller?
It is so essential for the ecosphere, it shouldn´t dissappear.
And it doesn´t.

When moving around the planet we´ll find that the ocean almost completely retreated
to the back side, still keeping its ressource role. And that´s fine by all those rain-longing
lifeforms hopping around.

Look, they meet each other everywhere on the landmasses.
Thoughts meet actions meet feelings meet experiences.
And over there´s some big happening or party going on.
Oh ... and over there another group of them is developing something together.
They stand on a tiny island very near at the still ocean covered crosspoint where
the equatorial lines meet. What are they doing?

Hmm ... i cannot see what actually happens from here.
Let´s push our timedrive forward just a bit ... (wooop-woop-wop) ... ah, now they
just stopped working and i can figure out the result: Hey ... to me it looks like some
futuristic kind of faster-than-light spaceship or something. And the very few folks on
the island get utterly excited and seem to want to have a little test ride.

When they go inside they kind of melt together, building a 5th life form made of the
4 aspects of thoughts, actions, feelings and experiences. What next ...?
Are they going for other planets...? And what would that mean for their homeworld,
our Mr. Universal?

Well, it would mean that he´d bundle himself into some freshly developed
thoughtfeelingexperienceaction and communicate a probe of his very pure self directly
to other planet minds faster than light.
Sounds a bit like telepathic impressions?
You bet.

But i found to feel that this would only be the most basic function in order to reach other planets -
just like talking today (which within the planet model would find a representation in that
very information-poor and hardly decipherable radioastronomy that represent today´s mankinds
best-working high-tech extraplanetar communication channel. You just decipher a probe of my signals
and i bet you would rather prefer to get the whole complete impression in just a glimpse of a second.
But sorry, my life forms for now have only a few continental bridges to meet. They tend to be quite a
playful and undisciplined bunch, so they did not figure out that ship construction trick yet.
Well, maybe later.).

i felt that the centered location of that just-watched testsite might have been of importance.
Now let´s just speedup our timedrive again for a moment ... (wooop-woop-wop) ... and see:
The 4 continents build a common continental bridge just at the center of that crosspoint.
Let´s stop again and try to have a closer look at the crosspoint region.

Oh, quite a busy place now.
There is some kind of spaceport; ships are constantly starting and landing.
Some of them have a similar design the first ship had, other ships do look quite alien
and come obviously from somewhere VERY else.

Hey, and have a look at the instruments: ... there seems to be some kind of strong energy
coming directly from that crosspoint center ... it goes right into air and ground along a
rectangular 3rd axis ... it seems to have no physical representations by poles and is connected
to force field interactions at the crosspoint where ethics and estethics meet, going right through
the middle core of the planet ... and it seems to be highly integrated in the planets whole ...
it generates its individual strength from the intensity of the guidelines and therefore the activity
at the force field poles ...

AND there is a feedback effect refeeding energy to the poles force field net, by which it kind of
strengthens itself along the time vector... for the human whole it works as a growing immaterial
continent just as the poles ... look: those thoughtfeelingexperienceactions we just watched coming
into existence climb that energy area ... a few of that new life forms seem to go into the planets
surface directly to the other side where the great ocean rolls ... others directly enter the spaceships
and liftoff when having merged ... but most of them fuse to bundles of those 4in1 life forms and float
along that energy vector, away from the planets surface ...

DEVELOPMENT TWO: The invisible continent

Dear passenger, i would like to introduce you to a hidden 5th growth area on Mr. Universal
i didn´t describe at my first overflight mission report. i just faded out sensor data of 3dimensional
mode because there already were (and still are) so many other things to see.

And there it is - a new phenomenon ... how could we name it? Will? Yes, please?
What do you suggest, Will? Oh, you suggest to call it "WILL".

Well ... hmmm, quite good actually, somehow suits its intense motivational glow, yes, but i sense
that label sounding a blip too pushy and slightly offtrack on my radars. It seems to be more ontrack
when similar to the continents names.

First those new trenscendent life forms could be called "The units" for their nature seems to me to be
some kind of multielemental homeworld-related pattern without the concept of causality in it:
In them there seems to be no "first this element, then that element" rule.
i.e. one of those hypothetical unit life forms already quite popular nowadays, known as telepathy",
to me seems to be realized as an action integrating thoughts, feelings and experiences.
It communicates the whole intraconnected package at one single point in time.
So everything takes place at the same time, therefore the factor "time" seems to me to be
no longer of relevance in that area.

And - as you see, this whole area is located rectangular towards the 2dimensional plain
that is build by the basic pattern within the space/time continuum. In mathemathics that
rectangular constellation could be interpreted as "independent" functions; on the other hand
that new area seems also a "completely dependent" resulting function because its existence
emerges from interactions provided by that 2dimensional pattern.

The units actually use that energy area as a living place, just like the others use a continent.
Remembering the fractal nature of universe then that "invisible, de-spacelized, de-causalized
continent" should provide some all-new development possibilities there ... on some "other" scale.

So that areas name should represent exactly the process this brand new 4dimensional life forms
base their existence on. it should be something essential, comparable to the 4 basic continents
(thinking, acting, feeling, learning). it should be recognizeable as some kind of relative towards
action, thought, experience and feeling, but it also should be a task every human should be able
to pick up. So i rather feel we could focus on calling the resulting area "FOCUSING" in the meaning
of concentrating 4 different life forms together into one multidimensional meta-entity individuum.

Well yes, i guess we´ll never make it at the meta-nominational champion ship contest with that.
Sorry about it. Of course other suggestions are welcome at any time. No, thank you, Will ...
but i assume "CON-FUSING" and "The fourheads" also sound a bit too distractive to work appropriate
in meta patterns. Anyone else? Maybe the actual receiver out there ...? ;-)

For now i think we should not let us get distracted by details when there are still some white spots
in the big picture that need to be painted out. Let´s for now pretend the hidden continent would be
FOCUSING (or something comparable like "fusioning" od "merging" - the integrating character should
be coming out here). Now ... if this is so, and if it works as some continental area with own growth
rates - what would be the goal of that growth? What would be "up there" the analogies to that
pole analogies in the continent picture?

As we already stated this area has integrating character.
The life forms are integrated and therefore so are the "everydaylife products" of this level
(i.e. telepathy). I feel like there are two poles establishing that new ecosphere.
They open a force field along the z-axis with the first pole sitting directly at the core of each planet
and the second pole leading directly off-planet into infinity.
Now what could that be?

Well, i guess you can feel it already: That core pole could be understood as the representation
of "INTRASELF". Of course it directs its owner in becoming an integrated whole within himself
(too bad so many people misinterpret this intuitive message from the inside and behave just selfish).

The infinity pole on the other hand could be understood as "INTERSELF" which means the latent
longing of becoming part of some higher, completely united - and of course timeless and infinite
(from our point of view) - entity. This longing often has in history been interpreted as an indicator
that there is a "god". Funny thing is: Each of the different interprets had been kind of right, as we
will see very soon.

SIDESTEP ONE: The dangers of belief

Uh, btw ... this seems to be a good occasion to popup a little WARNING flash:
Later on in this text that descriptions you just read will lead to explain what "god" is about.

So if you already chose a god-concept (and it maybe contains some need of sharply distinct
between the "true" childs of your god and the "others" who build the rest of the world)
you might feel a bit offended by the following. But see, it´s all just about my subjective impressions.

i would never say that my subjective reality suits the outer world better than your one does.
i respect and support you in any way you respect and support others.
It´s just that i feel quite well when moving in on planet me, walking around discovering all the details -
all other living places i inspected until now seemed to me to have some soggy corners in it.

See, in this planet model a basic implication is that all individuals are individuals,
following comparable basic principles and guidelines in their development.

Therefore they all deserve the same basic respect as long as their "life forms" do not mistreat
the individual principles and guidelines of other alien ecospheres.

In fact the model suits any human religion i ever heard of. From a planet model point of view
they all have in common that all are partly right. Its just that - if you understand religions
as alternative living models - religions usually focus on just a few aspects of the whole
(i.e. Christianity stresses "empathy" and supports "love" but seems to me having some uncomfort
in dealing with that fierce "lust" component in humans, just putting most aspects of it aside into
"devil´s realm").

And - of course - ALL religions call their product "enlightment", which is quite tempting, for this
exactly feeds each individuals hunger for the higher thinking principle, thus suggesting their
message provides "the only true" final answer.

Therefore believing this would stop an individual from going on enlarging its thinking continent
and stay underdeveloped. Believing can be quite a dead end to a mind longing for improvement
if not accompanied by testing. And believing that condemns testing seems to me being afraid of
discovering weak points - which to me is intended by the wish of keeping the actual status quo and
suppressing any developmental tendencies.

But i do believe (... ooops, you got me!) that everything is about development and about keeping
open to influences (so i for myself tend to run into difficulties in everyday situations that ask for
the ability to tolerate intolerance or to stay constructive when facing acts of destruction).

Please don´t get me wrong: Each religion has its appealing sides to me.
They can be great helpers in life if you manage to believe in one of them.
But i for myself had some problems feeling comfortable with any of them because of their - to me -
"offensive" character and all the fear-based passion for ritual behaviour i happened to sense.

And of course most important: They usually exclude the alternative models and suggest
the "others" are "wrong". Therefore i ask you to reach out for understanding by open-mindedness
when reading on. Thanks in advance. ;-)

Uh, one last naive demonstration about beliefs:
If i look at a picture of a dog, i might "believe" i got the whole picture and feel quite sure about it.
If i am used to dogs i might even tell you the parental lines, maybe even tell you about the character
of that dog due to its body communication. But i can NOT tell you how that individual dog voice would
actually SOUND like. You´ll have to find that dog and listen to it for yourself if you want to find out
more. But before you go, please finish reading. ;-)

SIDESTEP TWO: What the Borg didn´t get

I assume you might know the U.S. tv-series "Star Trek".
It introduces an "evil" alien race that seems to follow the general unification tendency i just
wrote about: the Borg. It is a partly mechanic collective life form that moves from planet to planet,
invading every blossoming civilisation they find and "assimilating" the inhibitants, taking away their
individuality and transforming them into Next Generation Borg (sounds even a bit like human parental
standard behaviour, doesn´t it...?).

Well, it is quite evident to me, that those Borg somehow got a glimpse of the whole, but utterly
misinterpreted it: They understood that others have talents they lack. They want to have part in that.

So they unify with others by making others become themselves. And that is the tricky part, for others
that lose their identity only behave as blinded mirrors.

They do not reflect and never doubt the leading entity that establishes "Do´s" and "Dont´s".
So they will never be able to produce a devil´s advocate thought and therefore will never be able
to adapt to a situation that does not suit their actual strategies.

They feel safe in their perceived superiority which is the key to their downfall in the series -
and also would be in real life (uh, btw ... misleading as well: believing in ones own inferiority.
Hierarchy concepts always inhibit ones own development responsibilities and potentials.
More of use for ones inner satisfaction would be some mantra i.e. "i am fine, which is good.
And i still can develop, which is even better." or so. Of course only THINKING it would not be
enough (4 areas, remember..?). Well, it´s not that easy, i know. But i keep on trying.).

See, an assimilator might go on and on with his strategy and in short-terms may look very
effective and successful on a materialistic scale. But in the end he will fall because he never really
reached someone due to his offensive nature that produces suppressive, antimagnetic effects.

And that´s why in the long run the federation always wins - they just OFFER unity
(with freely creating individuals) instead of FORCING it (into a centralized collective).

DEVELOPMENT THREE: God is still to come

Now enough of that. Let´s return to our start-reality and re-enter the orbit around that future
Mr. Universal.

In the meantime he succeeded in fully developing his continents and bringing them all together.
The ocean (our animal heritage, remember?) now retreated completely to the back side, still giving
life to the ecospheres but not interfering or inhibiting intercontinental communication anymore.
That fifth area is filled with units and he seems to have quite some interplanetar traffic going on.
Everything seems fine so far. But look at those instruments: there still is some inner activity on the
planet, some longing that does not seem to be fulfilled. What can it be? There seem to be a lack of
motivations around now: The poles are reached by the continents,the 5th area is established.

Oh, right ... but NOT fully developed.
So we might have a closer sensor scan of that phenomenon again.

That z-axis connects the INTRASELF and the INTERSELF.
It represents more than the equatorial lines - it is BOTH guideline and development area.
Its "shape" follows the drag created by this two poles.
Shortly spoken: The last goal this (and any) individual wants to finally reach by building up this
5th area and its integrated/integrating life forms is the unification of INTERSELF and INTRASELF.
He wants to become one entity with ALL the other entities (including the alien-shaped ones)
out there in universe.

Now, what a kind of crazy think is that...? How does our individual even get that idea?

Okay, this is the point where one could easily driftoff into thoughts that differ very much from mine.
I prefer not to think of some "caring parental leader" who put that idea into us (and NOT in others).
I for myself found another explanation that suits me better: See, we already touched the issue that
on the integrated level time has no essence anymore. This level offers quite a lot of tools to
communicate with others in a "complete" way - by sending units to others that represent
the whole homeworld.

Its just like a holography: break it in two and you got two small holographies, each one with the
complete picture on it (ta-daah! ... and again: fractal universe! ;-) ).

So this 5th area seems to just have the function of supporting integration with others.
And - as you might know from discussions - it feels "beautiful" and "right" if we got the impression
that someone understands us completely.

So we want to be transparent.
Transparency causes understanding in others.
And things like "telepathy" would surely be a more appropriate method than talking
to accomplish that - it would be even possible to "understand" alien impressions because of
the emotional context delivered within one of those packages.

But you know ... we soon get adapted to new toys. So Mr. Universal would not be satisfied with
this small packages. He would feel like a droplet longing to reach the big sea. He would have a feel
like "if i could only bring in more of me ... well, ALL of me in fact."
But where will this hunger lead him to? Future will tell.
So let´s now go there.

Now it´s time for us to get everything out of our timedrive that´s in it (...WOOOOOOOOOO...P.) ...
wow, and there we are:

The end of times!

Have a look around.

Well, yes, there´s still this big universe shell.
But of course, our sun, earth and even mankind inside do not exist anymore. But it does not
feel empty here ... there seems to be some kind of constant humming filling every corner...
and that humming seems to sound like billions and billions of people talking in their dreams ...
and they seem to be harmonized somehow as if being integrated part of a bigger whole ...
there seem so many different single entities in there that this bigger whole must surely be an
entity that knows everything ... and the whole entity itself is still in a kind of dream state just
starting to awake ... there: it opens its metaphoric eyes for the very first time ...

Well, if you should shoot a guess now, what would you call it?
Go ahead, you might ... because in a way we all are kind of its parents.

Yes right ... i just described the birth of god at the end of times.

It will be exactly in that moment, when any sub-unit of itself finally entered the bigger whole.
And all they know and all they are will become integrated part of every other integrated part
of the whole meta-entity. And because that meta-entity would not be influenced by time
it might effect all times at the same time.

And it really does, not by purpose but because of its sheer existence form.
So what we humans perceive as longing for a higher entity seems to me being a perception
of distant echoes emitted from that wholey interself entity at the end of times.

All right, so far for today.
I will silently disappear for now, giving you a little privacy with that impression.

See, i definitely don´t want to fiddle with religions; anyone shall believe what he/she/they want/s.
I just felt that this innocent little sunday afternoon impression came nearer to something that suits
me than any other bigselling thinking model i happened to meet before.

And i simply cannot keep my mouth closed when i see something that beautiful to me.

I hope you don´t mind,
yours Me. ;-)

Re: Planet We - The 2nd visit

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:44 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Wow. Really interesting style of writing.


Did you write that exclusively for us here at the Philosophy Now Forums?


It seems that you are proficient at writing & typing quickly.


Do you type at work
or have you always been able to capture your dreams in written form?



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Re: Planet We - The 2nd visit

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:28 am
by Thozau
Hi Bill,

wow, thanks for your kind words. No i didn´t wrote that exclusively for
philosophy now. Its just that i had this vision i wanted to share because
i wanted to contribute and philosophy now (which i first time heard about 2 days ago)
seemed to be the right place. Now i´m 46 years old but i used to write short stories since
i was 12 so i think my way of writing is a result of thet practise.

Have a nice day :)

Re: Planet We - The 2nd visit

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:35 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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Thank you.


I look forward to more of your original postings!



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