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TSBU wrote:

TSBU wrote:I don't know, I just read the last post (wich wasn't yours) and started searching a funny picture (and when I postd...). Militant atheists are for me similar to militant religionists: stupid arrogant constant noise. I mean... this is the same, but I post pictures

Immanuel Can wrote:
They were racial supremacists, followers of Darwinian genetics,

Immanuel Can wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: You tell me. As a kristian you would have a much better idea than I would.

So you don't know? You're just throwing around accusations of genocide? How much do you hate Christians, and how much do you despise the truth?

But here's some truth for you. The Jews of the Holocaust were not killed for their religion. The survivors themselves say so. They point out that though they tried, there was absolutely nothing they could do to make the Nazis have mercy on them. Converting to anything didn't save them or abate the Nazi hatred. Secular Jews were killed every bit as quickly as the Hassidim were. Women or men, educated, talented, wise or foolish, religious or atheist, the Nazis hated all of them and killed all of them with equal relish.

Why? Because their hatred was based on race, not religion. They didn't care if a Jewish person was religious or not. It didn't matter to them. Of course they always, like all sides, said "God" was on their side. In a war, the factions always do that. But the truth is manifest from both what they said and what their victims said.

They were racial supremacists, followers of Darwinian genetics, Heideggerian philosophy, socialism and Arian mythology.

Now, tell me YOUR theory. I reeeeally want to hear this.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: The nazis were science illiterates.

Harbal wrote:People used to be so kind and nice to each other before God created Darwin.

Harbal wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:Let's see what we've figured out so far:

1. Atheism, whether with a big "A" or a small "a-" is the belief there is no God.

It's actually a case of not even giving it any thought, with a lot of people. Some of us are far too busy thinking about how we can make this world a better place for our fellow man.

Harbal wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote: 3. Atheism allows people to be good if they already want to; but it also allows them to be totally evil if they want to. There is no evil it forbids, or upon which it even frowns. There is no good it favours, and no virtue it teaches us to reward. It has no position on moral values at all...except that no ultimate grounds for them exist.

Reply withheld on grounds of not wanting to lend dignity to ridiculous statement by providing response.

thedoc wrote:

Harbal wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote: 3. Atheism allows people to be good if they already want to; but it also allows them to be totally evil if they want to. There is no evil it forbids, or upon which it even frowns. There is no good it favours, and no virtue it teaches us to reward. It has no position on moral values at all...except that no ultimate grounds for them exist.

Reply withheld on grounds of not wanting to lend dignity to ridiculous statement by providing response.

In other words you just can't think of a snappy comeback, I'm really disappointed with you.

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: The nazis were science illiterates.

Science illiterates, and I thought that science created the weapons that were used to fight a war, and the Nazi's had some of the best. So I guess it doesn't take good science to create a good weapon.

thedoc wrote:It appears that you are failing on that point.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:YOU are the one who keeps on with your hateful rants that athiests are the root of all evil.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: If you knew anything at all about science you would know that they didn't follow evolutionary fact at all. Quite the opposite. The nazis were science illiterates (another thing you have in common with them).