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Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:31 am But, if "donald trump" does not get what it wants through the supreme court, then "donald trump" will then just say something like, 'See, the whole judicial system is grossly skewed'.

Soon, speaking out against The Brave New World will be against the Law, which will be a public gag order, not merely a gag order placed on political opponents during an election year for the purpose of election interference and media distraction from the destabilization unleashed by Obama/Biden's overturning of Trump's policies.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:05 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:31 am But, if "donald trump" does not get what it wants through the supreme court, then "donald trump" will then just say something like, 'See, the whole judicial system is grossly skewed'.

Soon, speaking out against The Brave New World will be against the Law, which will be a public gag order, not merely a gag order placed on political opponents during an election year for the purpose of election interference and media distraction from the destabilization unleashed by Obama/Biden's overturning of Trump's policies.

Yes, very true. The way things are playing out in that so-called, ' "united states" of america ', place, soon you will all be, run and ruled, by some form of dictatorship, either way you people vote.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:05 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:31 am But, if "donald trump" does not get what it wants through the supreme court, then "donald trump" will then just say something like, 'See, the whole judicial system is grossly skewed'.

Soon, speaking out against The Brave New World will be against the Law, which will be a public gag order, not merely a gag order placed on political opponents during an election year for the purpose of election interference and media distraction from the destabilization unleashed by Obama/Biden's overturning of Trump's policies.

You are suffering from serious cognitive difficulties.
Obama did not overturn any of Trump's policies.
You should not be allowed to vote.
I fear for the future of the USA

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:32 am If all that's true and Trump's trial was grossly skewed and mishandled by NY's Justice system, then it needs to go to the Supreme Court and the case needs to be resolved once and for all using conventional, textbook judicial procedures. Otherwise, justice will not be served and the controversy is going to go on forever.

Nicely put.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:54 am We’ll see. When The Party can destroy a political candidate who is also an ex-president by corrupting the due process of Law, which they are doing to Trump, then Supreme means small potatoes.

Over the last 10 years when I have been paying attention, it happened that mass anti-free speech policies were enacted upon people, citizens, who held to different views, dissident views, and views that did not jibe with the cultural Hyper-Liberal Consensus. Bannings of content creators, de-monetization, de-banking and mass campaigns to vilify those engaged in wrongthink.

I think we must accept the fact that, de jure, free speech is a real right but that de facto it is not.

What our own local •hyper-liberals• on this forum do not seem to realize is that when they agree with the (obvious) injustice of curtailing free discourse through the processes I mention, they fail to grasp that these actions mirror the so-called fascistic actions which they say they oppose.

They believe, I suppose honestly, that their suppressive efforts serve a higher purpose (they call that protecting democracy) but fail to notice that they participate with a régime that is part of a vast cultural and political machine that, now, feels that dissident political powers are gaining ground.

The entire tone is always expressed in the standard, post-war terms: Nazis and fascists gaining ground and that require special, repressive efforts to contain and curtail their political success.

I have numerous friends — from university days — who embody the attitude or outlook I attempt to describe.

Everyone knows, unless they are dishonest at a basic level, that the lawfare against Trump is cynically and politically motivated, and has been hurried in this, an election year. It has a defined purpose and in the two recent cases (Bragg and Willis) they made their political intentions as clear as day. As Dershowitz put it: Get Trump. Use whatever tactics to do so.

Seeds seems to believe that I am stupid because (as he asserts) I fail to see, and condemn along with the irrational crowd, Donal Trump’s numerous defects. But I do see them. And I also see Trump as having been thrust into a role for which he is not well designed. It is not Trump that I ‘support’ or believe in but rather a marginalized opposition that has been vilified, branded as evil, and pushed into corners defined by the general régime operative in our present.

Trump then has done a huge service in American and world politics. He broke through a culture of political control and has allowed a whole range of different political views to enter the present discourse, even if they are marginalized to platforms like Rumble or Bitchute.

So it looks to me to be true: If Trump et al (those who come to the fore because of an opportunity presented) will be crushed with such ferocity, then in truth no one — and no one of you or us — is actually safe.

The real issue stems out of the suppression of the right of being able to engage really with the right of freedom of speech.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:18 pm You should not be allowed to vote.

I fear for the future of the USA.

Said without recognizing what is really being said.

Sculptor embodies a form of the political, social and intellectual disease that presents itself a righteousness-in-action.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:54 am SCOTUS justices are human, they live in neighborhoods, the personal welfare of their families is undoubtedly a consideration in The Brave New World where the illegal intimidation of justices and their families at their homes is allowed by the Democrat Party.

What is it that leads you to claim that the Democrats give permission to anyone who wants to harass SCOTUS and their families? Seriously, why do you say this?

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:35 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:54 am SCOTUS justices are human, they live in neighborhoods, the personal welfare of their families is undoubtedly a consideration in The Brave New World where the illegal intimidation of justices and their families at their homes is allowed by the Democrat Party.

What is it that leads you to claim that the Democrats give permission to anyone who wants to harass SCOTUS and their families? Seriously, why do you say this?

Because the police were not sent in to stop such protests (intimidation).

There are whole ranges of activities over the last years that were allowed and condoned by Democrat run cities.

The so-called Rule of Law, the foundation of the nation, does not clearly exist. For example when illegal immigration is encouraged, allowed, and the supported (by both private and government entities).

The Rule of Law is violated when an important political objective is seen as more relevant than respecting the law.

Because of the severe political struggles going on both visibly and behind the scenes.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:32 am If all that's true and Trump's trial was grossly skewed and mishandled by NY's Justice system, then it needs to go to the Supreme Court and the case needs to be resolved once and for all using conventional, textbook judicial procedures. Otherwise, justice will not be served and the controversy is going to go on forever.

Nonsense.
What news service are you watching?
THe defence had every opportunity to act in their own interests.
Trump was damned by his own evidence and his own people
WTF is the matter with AMericans?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:31 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:18 pm You should not be allowed to vote.

I fear for the future of the USA.

Said without recognizing what is really being said.

Sculptor embodies a form of the political, social and intellectual disease that presents itself a righteousness-in-action.

Utter bollocks.

I said "Obama did not overturn any of Trump's policies.".

Please explain how I am wrong.

Are you as stupid as everyone else?
You DO realise that Obama was in power BEFORE Trump?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:08 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:32 am If all that's true and Trump's trial was grossly skewed and mishandled by NY's Justice system, then it needs to go to the Supreme Court and the case needs to be resolved once and for all using conventional, textbook judicial procedures. Otherwise, justice will not be served and the controversy is going to go on forever.

Nonsense.
What news service are you watching?
THe defence had every opportunity to act in their own interests.
Trump was damned by his own evidence and his own people
WTF is the matter with AMericans?

I was looking at Walker's post that seems to claim that the proceedings of the trial were out of the ordinary and perhaps skewed toward a conviction. When I googled to fact check it the main sources USA Today, The New York Times, Washington Post, etc, didn't seem to mention anything about it so all I have to go on is Walker's source. Which is why I prefaced my statement with the word "IF".

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:35 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:54 am SCOTUS justices are human, they live in neighborhoods, the personal welfare of their families is undoubtedly a consideration in The Brave New World where the illegal intimidation of justices and their families at their homes is allowed by the Democrat Party.

What is it that leads you to claim that the Democrats give permission to anyone who wants to harass SCOTUS and their families? Seriously, why do you say this?

Seriously, since the information is readily available, in addition to corruption of the Law being a matter of approval more than a matter of knowing, we can also add that it’s a matter of willful ignorance that prevents knowing.

For example, it took only about thirty seconds to find these facts in the Age of Information which is not the sole source. Of course, it does take a measure of intelligence to process the obvious.

Democrats abetting intimidation are destroying civil society
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... l-society/

Supreme Court Marshal Gail Curley sent a letter to Elrich this month and requested that he use his power as county executive to enforce Maryland law and end the Left’s new habit of harassing and intimidating Supreme Court justices at their homes.

“Protest activity at justices’ homes, as well as threatening activity, has increased since May,” Curley wrote. “For weeks on end, large groups of protesters chanting slogans, using bullhorns, and banging drums have picketed justices’ homes. … This is exactly the kind of conduct that the Maryland and Montgomery County laws prohibit.”

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:08 pm

Hogwash.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:18 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:05 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:31 am But, if "donald trump" does not get what it wants through the supreme court, then "donald trump" will then just say something like, 'See, the whole judicial system is grossly skewed'.

Soon, speaking out against The Brave New World will be against the Law, which will be a public gag order, not merely a gag order placed on political opponents during an election year for the purpose of election interference and media distraction from the destabilization unleashed by Obama/Biden's overturning of Trump's policies.

You are suffering from serious cognitive difficulties.
Obama did not overturn any of Trump's policies.
You should not be allowed to vote.
I fear for the future of the USA

You are seriously, cognitively naive.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:28 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:08 pm

Hogwash.

Not much of an argument.