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lancek4 wrote:Yes.

It seems you would be a good candidtate for scientology.
Their 'belief' go like this:
The human being/body is a perfect processing machine;and it records all experiences. The human being is thus 'playing' the recording perfectly given the particular information (experience) given it.
So, if a person finds that their life in unsatisfactory or that they have issues that they don't like about themselves, the reason is because it/he has been given 'faulty' data to work with. This faulty data is equated to traumatic experiences that the adult does not remember but nevertheless are influencing how he thinks and behaves. Thus the individual is 'running' upon a distortion of what is true: the being which processes all decision perfectly because it does not have distorted perceptions based off of faulty data.
The initial purpose of scientology is to remove such faulty data from the individual. Once this has occurred, then no inhibitive emotions or reactions occur, and the individual is free to be his true self, which is the fulfillment of its natural potential

This then lends itself to the second purpose:
When the individual is freed from such distortions, the individual can be said to be existing or being exactly how the universe intends: concordant with the universe's design. Thus the second purpose is for the individual to 'put ethics' upon the universe to bring about a better and more effective humanity.

Do you see anything wrong with this ideal?

Screw Scientology, Lance!

I am in no way like a Scientologist. For your information, this recording 'fact' was born of Psychology not Scientology. It may have been embraced, adopted, by Scientology but it was coined by a psychologist. Scientologies creator L Ron Hubbard, through their use of his book, Dianetics, was initially a fiction book author and was in no way associated with academics in psychology.

I don't buy into ANYONES BS. As I already stated: I am not a leader and I'll be damned if I'll be a follower. I believe in absolutely NO organized religion, cult, etc. The only thing I buy into is education and even that I take with a grain of salt. If it doesn't fit with all the other puzzle pieces that I believe I've managed to put into place, it gets pitched into the BS pile of garbage, I don't care who said it! A GOD could say it, and if it was contrary to what I know, I would tell it to go and fock itself! Because what I know is balanced, considering everything and everyone. And only a true creator would understand this. There would be no contradiction to that which exists, or it wouldn't exist!

P.S. L Ron Hubbard credits Sigmund Freud for some of his books contents. here's a quote from Wikipedia:

"Some of the psychometric ideas in Dianetics can be traced to Sigmund Freud, whom Hubbard credited as an inspiration and was said to have used as a source. Freud had speculated 40 years previously that traumas with similar content join together in "chains," embedded in the unconscious mind, to cause irrational responses in the individual. Such a chain would be relieved by inducing the patient to remember the earliest trauma, "with an accompanying expression of emotion."

But where I got my information from was the book I'm OK, You're OK, which also borrows from Freud.

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The beast is manifested in the collective evil born of the selfishness in the minds of men. Understand the psychology of man and you cannot be deceived by his selfishness. "Bosses get talking so tough, and if that wasn't evil enough, we get the drunken and the passionate pride, of the citizens along for the ride."
~~~ SpheresOfBalance ~~~

Excellent re-interpretation



....good advice too.


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Bill Wiltrack wrote: The beast is manifested in the collective evil born of the selfishness in the minds of men. Understand the psychology of man and you cannot be deceived by his selfishness. "Bosses get talking so tough, and if that wasn't evil enough, we get the drunken and the passionate pride, of the citizens along for the ride."
~~~ SpheresOfBalance ~~~Excellent re-interpretation....good advice too.

None of you jokers has the slightest idea what you're talking about. At least I can point to an authoritative organization that says I know a hell of a lot more about this subject than you do (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/spiritual ... rfeits.pdf).

bobevenson wrote:

Bill Wiltrack wrote: The beast is manifested in the collective evil born of the selfishness in the minds of men. Understand the psychology of man and you cannot be deceived by his selfishness. "Bosses get talking so tough, and if that wasn't evil enough, we get the drunken and the passionate pride, of the citizens along for the ride."
~~~ SpheresOfBalance ~~~Excellent re-interpretation....good advice too.

None of you jokers have the slightest idea what you're talking about. At least I can point to an authoritative organization that says I know a hell of a lot more about this subject than you do (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/spiritual ... rfeits.pdf).

Here let me correct you:

At least I can point to an organization that says I know a hell of a lot more about what they have to say than you do.

Such that my assertion is actually this question: Who are they anyway?

Hey Bob, if they gather all you followers together and tell you that the beast is at the door and proceed to pass out cups of funny smelling Kool-Aid, and it's your favorite flavor, drink up!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

Bill Wiltrack wrote: The beast is manifested in the collective evil born of the selfishness in the minds of men. Understand the psychology of man and you cannot be deceived by his selfishness. "Bosses get talking so tough, and if that wasn't evil enough, we get the drunken and the passionate pride, of the citizens along for the ride."
~~~ SpheresOfBalance ~~~Excellent re-interpretation....good advice too.

None of you jokers have the slightest idea what you're talking about. At least I can point to an authoritative organization that says I know a hell of a lot more about this subject than you do (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/spiritual ... rfeits.pdf).

Here let me correct you:

At least I can point to an organization that says I know a hell of a lot more about what they have to say than you do.

Such that my assertion is actually this question: Who are they anyway?

Hey Bob, if they gather all you followers together and tell you that the beast is at the door and proceed to pass out cups of funny smelling Kool-Aid, and it's your favorite flavor, drink up!

If what you just said could be converted into your voice, I think it would sound like you inhaled too much helium.

"We are the lollipop gand, the lillipop, the lollipop gang.."

Hey - I remember there was this professor I knew who insisted that our number symbols (1,2,3,...9) were originally symbols of sex, and that numbers thus rtepresented various human meanings depending upon their situating, ie, 12+527 is ..., could be transscribed to mean something of that moment it was used.
He was a history prof iif I am correct and he had 'proof' of this truth. Which I never was shown.

His system though, which supposedly was of ancient origin, went something like:
1 - the errect penis; vitality of life
2- the flacid penis; the passivity of life.
3- feminine breasts.
4- intercourse
And I don't remember the rest; but you get the picture.

He was very admimant that this was true history.

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Bob, do you remember this?





Bob, I know you are VERY PASSIONATE and very vocal about Evensonomics and Ouzo.


...and that you have been spreading the word for many years now.


I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to drop some knowledge on us here at the Philosophy Now Forums.


I remember you said that Evensonomics will start in one town and quickly spread throughout the country.


With the elections just past here in the states on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 I would like to ask, if I may, where did you run this year and for what position?


Who of your passionate followers ran for any position under the Free Energy Party?


A lot of what you say makes no sense at all. On some level you do understand that, right?


OKay.

Sherry already won Homecoming Queen.


I got that.



No explanation necessary.





On a very serious note, Bob if you are working with some sort of health care professional, now is the time to talk to them.

Bob, you are not relating to the real world. That is a bad sign.

The fact that you are so passionate about your Evensonomics and Ouzo might actually be another bad sign-even though I appreciate your fortitude in developing a philosophical and political concept or group of thoughts.

You may be running down a road that is ultimately dangerous. For your own sake alone, make the effort to get another opinion. Talk to a professional. Run your ideas by them once.




Good luck my friend.





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Bill I followed that link you provided in your previous post and I want to seriously thank you, for the overabundance of endorphins that your comments provided. My cortisol and epinephrine levels plummeted such that I found myself on the floor reeling form their causal. It was much needed, I'll probably live another week because of you!

Truly Bill, I thank you sir!

What can I say, Bill, you're the space cowboy, and you never run out of it.

Bill - I beleve your comment to Bob was the most kind, gracious and thoughtfull assertion of an insult I have ever heard/read. Lol.

lancek4 wrote:Bill - I beleve your comment to Bob was the most kind, gracious and thoughtfull assertion of an insult I have ever heard/read. Lol.

Holy shit, and I thought Bill was the dumbest guy in this forum!

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Bob, is anything that I said getting through to you?



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bobevenson wrote:What can I say, Bill, you're the space cowboy, and you never run out of it.

Look Bob I'm not one to profit at someones expense, but as far as I'm concerned you're kind of asking for it. Start your own topic and see how many people are interested. Build it and they may come, but don't be obnoxious and try and derail someone elses thread. If you are seriously interested in this topic, then I seriously expect you to seriously contribute. Please do every one a favor and keep your commercials in their own thread.

Thank You!

And,

Happy Holidays! (I hope I'm not to early, 1 wk & 3 days to go)

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:What can I say, Bill, you're the space cowboy, and you never run out of it.

Look Bob I'm not one to profit at someones expense, but as far as I'm concerned you're kind of asking for it. Start your own topic and see how many people are interested. Build it and they may come, but don't be obnoxious and try and derail someone elses thread. If you are seriously interested in this topic, then I seriously expect you to seriously contribute. Please do every one a favor and keep your commercials in their own thread.

Thank You!

And,

Happy Holidays! (I hope I'm not to early, 1 wk & 3 days to go)

Listen, pal, this thread is about truth, and I know more about truth than anybody on this planet. Why don't you take a look at liar's poker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liars_poker), and then take a look at the game of Ouzo (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf). Liar's poker is a watered-down version of Ouzo promulgated by Satan, like an attenuated virus that Satan inoculates people with to keep them from catching the real thing, O my brother in tribulation!

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