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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:09 pm I am wounded …

You don't have to be wounded, if you get yourself some decent information. Immanuel is right about your persona on the forum. It's not shameful to lack info but it's lazy to pretend that posturing is any substitute for knowledge.

Christ...the ultimate scapegoat.

Pistolero wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:19 pm Christ...the ultimate scapegoat.

Wrong!
Christ rose again but scapegoats don't.

That's why he's the "ultimate scapegoat" dear.
The idea never dies, as long as there are feeble spirits looking for a scapegoat.
Ha!!

Pistolero wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:25 pm That's why he's the "ultimate scapegoat" dear.
The idea never dies, as long as there are feeble spirits looking for a scapegoat.
Ha!!

No, Christ is Cosmic so cannot die even when there are no minds to know about Him.

Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:17 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:09 pm I am wounded …

You don't have to be wounded, if you get yourself some decent information. Immanuel is right about your persona on the forum. It's not shameful to lack info but it's lazy to pretend that posturing is any substitute for knowledge.

Immanuel will surely appreciate your comment. Myself, I think you misunderstand.

But your opinion has validity.

Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:32 pm No, Christ is Cosmic so cannot die even when there are no minds to know about Him.

An example of informed knowledge, to inspire us all.

AJ: I don’t know, it seems to me that all diagnosis contains prescription.

Pistolero: Really?

What if I diagnose a man as being mortal....am I offering a solution?

One begins with a diagnosis.....objectively. This means one does not allow personal reactions and solutions to enter the picture.

If I diagnose a dog as being dumb, what prescription am I offering?

We seem to be in a tumultuous time and one unusual because of a whole range of rebellions and oppositions to conventions. I am frankly uncertain what is a good descriptive term for all the disturbances going on. At least as far as my own awareness goes “it” seemed to have begun 10-15 years ago (perhaps with the ideas of the Dissident Right or Alt-Right as it was called).

So the “critical position” (say of Alain de Benoist as one good example) was diagnostic certainly, but to be diagnostic
there had to be on some level a proscription.

Every critical work I have exposed myself to (I mean works that critique “the direction things have gone” like Richard Weaver’s Ideas Have Consequences; or René Guénon’s Crisis of the Modern Age; or Christopher Dawson’s books recommending a recovery of Catholic essentials, etc.) all speak about the recovery of something essential.

If one offers diagnosis it does seem to me that the diagnoseur will likely have ideas about “recovery”.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:02 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:17 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:09 pm I am wounded …

You don't have to be wounded, if you get yourself some decent information. Immanuel is right about your persona on the forum. It's not shameful to lack info but it's lazy to pretend that posturing is any substitute for knowledge.

Immanuel will surely appreciate your comment. Myself, I think you misunderstand.

But your opinion has validity.

I am sorry if I misunderstand you, Alexis. Maybe if you try primary school English ?

Pistolero wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:05 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:32 pm No, Christ is Cosmic so cannot die even when there are no minds to know about Him.

An example of informed knowledge, to inspire us all.

Thanks P. But what I wrote is not knowledge, only opinion based on some studying I have been doing.

Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:32 pm No, Christ is Cosmic so cannot die even when there are no minds to know about Him.

This is an unusual faith-statement (including capitalizations) from someone I have always read as an atheist.

One (atypical) Catholic philosopher of our day, E. Michael Jones, places stress on the Johannine Logos and presents Christ in that sense. I can see how the metaphysical Cosmic Christ Logos is a way to generalize a notion of the divine but rather back toward something more abstract, less body-bound, then the incarnated Jesus of the Gospels and Epistles.

The Logos-concept certainly keeps many conceptual pathways open.

The Osiris-Isis mythology — far older, perhaps even the “genuine” mythology behind the Catholic stress on Jesus-Mary — holds a great deal of psychic resonance.

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:36 pm I am sorry if I misunderstand you, Alexis. Maybe if you try primary school English ?

Let me ask you this and please answer me honestly:

1) Do you have what is called “a sense of humor”?

2) Does your sense of humor ever make its way into what you write here?

3) Does “humor” have philosophical purpose?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:34 pm

AJ: I don’t know, it seems to me that all diagnosis contains prescription.

Pistolero: Really?

What if I diagnose a man as being mortal....am I offering a solution?

One begins with a diagnosis.....objectively. This means one does not allow personal reactions and solutions to enter the picture.

If I diagnose a dog as being dumb, what prescription am I offering?

We seem to be in a tumultuous time and one unusual because of a whole range of rebellions and oppositions to conventions. I am frankly uncertain what is a good descriptive term for all the disturbances going on. At least as far as my own awareness goes “it” seemed to have begun 10-15 years ago (perhaps with the ideas of the Dissident Right or Alt-Right as it was called).

So the “critical position” (say of Alain de Benoist as one good example) was diagnostic certainly, but to be diagnostic
there had to be on some level a proscription.

Every critical work I have exposed myself to (I mean works that critique “the direction things have gone” like Richard Weaver’s Ideas Have Consequences; or René Guénon’s Crisis of the Modern Age; or Christopher Dawson’s books recommending a recovery of Catholic essentials, etc.) all speak about the recovery of something essential.

If one offers diagnosis it does seem to me that the diagnoseur will likely have ideas about “recovery”.

When an organism is dying, no doctor can prevent his death.
Only a god can prevent death.

Gens to Memes

As organisms die so do super-organisms, like nations, or empires.
Rome, is the most obvious example.
An empire in decline goes through the cycles of decline.
The last being disillusionment and degeneracy.

I've made a prediction based on the ascent of America to the status of Hegemony:

1776 is the proximate beginning.
The Civil War occurred about 100 years later.
It reached its pinnacle between 1960 and 1990 - a generation.
That's when Kennedy was assassinated, Strauss began to affect US academia, the Frankfurt School began affecting America's Boomer generation, - where Wokism was seeded.

I suspect that the second America's Civil War will occur 100 years after its pinnacle. It's already under way.
But it remains cold. It will gradually heat up.
The second American Civil war will be one of dissolution. It will fragments into pieces, each one claiming to be the inheritor of the American spirit.
I expect the end to occur around 2170 BCE

The US has no unifying ethnic identity, nor a culture.
All it has is a meting pot and a pop-culture. All it has is a concept - Liberty.
As you can see, from this forum alone, most American minds no longer believe in freedom.
This is a symptom of decline - disillusionment. Those born and raise within an Empire, with its particular worldview, will experience it as an 'end of the world' situation. For them all that they considers irrefutable truths, have been exposed as lies....so they now doubt everything, inducing their own judgments, their own senses.
Hedonism, materialism or consumerism, the pleasure principle rises, because it is the only thing they consider certain.

The process I called Feminization of Man....
The state becomes protector provider - an abstraction of masculinity - relegating all biological males to the status of proxy females.
Females will experience this as a decline of masculinity - where have all the 'real men gone.?
They have no clue.
They become masculanlized as the void must be filled, and the state prefers the more manageable feminine to the more challenging masculine - which is now called 'toxic.
As men become emasculated they will increasingly become disinterested in the system's welfare - having no investments in it, e.g., no children no mate (see Japan).... or they will become increasingly hyper-masculine (see the US and its negro culture dominating)

In Rome the same occurred but differently. History repeats, but never in exactly the same way.
Rome had the advantage of being ethnically homogeneous and with a strong Hellenic based culture.
The US is heterogeneous and it has been dominated by a Hebraic based culture.

Christ symbolizes the anti-nature strip of Abrahamism.
Its "logic" produced transsexualism.

The Jesus narrative goes through the transformation of man from physical being - mind/body synthesis - into a pure spirit - pure mind, abstract idea with no corporeal referent.
It is spiritual nihilism in disguise.

Why did all these Christian Americans stand up when Transsexualism began to infect children?
Because nihilism cannot survive in a world it denounces and wants to nullify, without contradicting itself. It saw that its own logic leads to tis extinction, because no nation, no idea, can survive if it cannot reproduce itself.
Abrahamism has integrated excuses to justify its self-contradictions.
Like the concept of 'sin' or the rules concerning suicide.

A believer is expected to contradicts his own beliefs, and then apologize for it.
A man is prevented from joining god, by some arbitrary rule that prohibits taking his own life to end this miserable sinful existence.
In Judaism they have a yearly ritual of self-absolution - and use scapegoats to unload their sins - their self-contradictions.

A messiah is the ultimate scapegoat. a self-purifying cocnept dealing with the inherent contradictions of a nihilistic belief surviving in a world it despises.

In Marxism - evolution of Christianity- they blame their own comrades for 'failing to apply their 'perfect ideology'.
All communists must accuse their own comrades, to maintain their convictions.
They will never seek the source of their failure in their beliefs.
Lefties need to believe that their Utopia is inevitable - as they declare themselves to be "on the right side of history."
If not God, then Cosmic order will bring about their perfect system.
Techno-Utopianism. (See Star Trek)

And, if you haven't noticed, all these lefties are free-will deniers.
And Abrahamism believes in a pseudo-free-will. Free, but if you exercise it, external hell awaits you. They need shame and guilt.
It's built into their dogma.
In Judaism the self-contradictions manifest neurosis.

Marxists need to believe that their failures were determined by forces out of their control, but they continue to blame "capitalists" of exploitation, contradicting themselves.

A possible solution...as Americanism recedes and China approaches, is a revival of paganism in Europe.
Timocracy was the best system.
So good it was forced to break its own ideals when non-citizens demanded representation in what they were excluded: governance.
Sub-classes multiplied because the polis flourished, until they demanded inclusion.
and that was its end.
I dare say, the other thing is to once more deny woman the vote.