Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 8:44 pm
One of the ways to alleviate symptoms is apparently exercise.
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Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 8:58 pm
I had to look it up.
One of the ways to alleviate symptoms is apparently exercise.
One of the ways to alleviate symptoms is apparently exercise.
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:39 pm
nope
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Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:07 pm
I'm not clear on your position, Gary. It looks like you're saying "nobody knows," but then, how are you going to know that? You say it's possible...but how do you know that, either? The only part I think I understand clearly is your claim that you don't know.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 6:02 amBoth. I don't think anyone has a way of knowing for sure that they know God since it's all ultimately speculation and it's possible that some might have their speculations accurate, that's possible and I don't know who they'd be.
Maybe you can clear all that up for me.
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:32 pm
If God = the creator of all that is, how would you know that something is the creator of all that is. If it tells you it is, then is it telling the truth or is it deceiving you or mistaken. The only way to know for sure would be to witness the creator creating the universe. Since we are presumably not able to observe that, being logically impossible as well, we are always speculating that our beliefs are accurate or based on accurate testimony. If that's not true for you, then I assume you were there to witness the creator creating the universe. If not, then you are like me. All you could have is the testimony of something that tells us it is the creator of all that is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:07 pmI'm not clear on your position, Gary. It looks like you're saying "nobody knows," but then, how are you going to know that? You say it's possible...but how do you know that, either? The only part I think I understand clearly is your claim that you don't know.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 6:02 amBoth. I don't think anyone has a way of knowing for sure that they know God since it's all ultimately speculation and it's possible that some might have their speculations accurate, that's possible and I don't know who they'd be.
Maybe you can clear all that up for me.
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:52 pm
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:01 am
Oh, I see. So what you're saying is that you don't know if God tells the truth?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:32 pmIf God = the creator of all that is, how would you know that something is the creator of all that is. If it tells you it is, then is it telling the truth or is it deceiving you or mistaken. The only way to know for sure would be to witness the creator creating the universe. Since we are presumably not able to observe that, being logically impossible as well, we are always speculating that our beliefs are accurate or based on accurate testimony. If that's not true for you, then I assume you were there to witness the creator creating the universe. If not, then you are like me. All you could have is the testimony of something that tells us it is the creator of all that is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:07 pmI'm not clear on your position, Gary. It looks like you're saying "nobody knows," but then, how are you going to know that? You say it's possible...but how do you know that, either? The only part I think I understand clearly is your claim that you don't know.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 6:02 am
Both. I don't think anyone has a way of knowing for sure that they know God since it's all ultimately speculation and it's possible that some might have their speculations accurate, that's possible and I don't know who they'd be.
Maybe you can clear all that up for me.
Well, from a Christian and Jewish perspective, there's got to be nothing else the Supreme Being can tell. If you read in Genesis, you find out that God spoke all things into existence. His word is why things are the way they are. That means that His word IS reality. It determines what is real. So analytically, it's impossible for God to tell anything but the truth.
However, you must have some sort of lesser being or demigod in mind. They could conceivably lie, without it redefining reality itself.
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:12 am
No. It's saying I don't know that something is God, therefore, I don't know if it's telling the truth. There's a difference.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:01 amOh, I see. So what you're saying is that you don't know if God tells the truth?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:32 pmIf God = the creator of all that is, how would you know that something is the creator of all that is. If it tells you it is, then is it telling the truth or is it deceiving you or mistaken. The only way to know for sure would be to witness the creator creating the universe. Since we are presumably not able to observe that, being logically impossible as well, we are always speculating that our beliefs are accurate or based on accurate testimony. If that's not true for you, then I assume you were there to witness the creator creating the universe. If not, then you are like me. All you could have is the testimony of something that tells us it is the creator of all that is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:07 pm
I'm not clear on your position, Gary. It looks like you're saying "nobody knows," but then, how are you going to know that? You say it's possible...but how do you know that, either? The only part I think I understand clearly is your claim that you don't know.
Maybe you can clear all that up for me.
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:51 am
Okay, go ahead...what's the difference? I think I get it, but I want to be sure I'm understanding you. What would the "something" be that you're uncertain is God?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:12 amNo. It's saying I don't know that something is God, therefore, I don't know if it's telling the truth. There's a difference.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:01 amOh, I see. So what you're saying is that you don't know if God tells the truth?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:32 pm
If God = the creator of all that is, how would you know that something is the creator of all that is. If it tells you it is, then is it telling the truth or is it deceiving you or mistaken. The only way to know for sure would be to witness the creator creating the universe. Since we are presumably not able to observe that, being logically impossible as well, we are always speculating that our beliefs are accurate or based on accurate testimony. If that's not true for you, then I assume you were there to witness the creator creating the universe. If not, then you are like me. All you could have is the testimony of something that tells us it is the creator of all that is.
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:58 am
Well, according to many religions (including Christianity) it could be a demon or lesser being. Could be an advanced intelligence that did not create the universe. Could be hallucination or delusion.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:51 amOkay, go ahead...what's the difference? I think I get it, but I want to be sure I'm understanding you. What would the "something" be that you're uncertain is God?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:12 amNo. It's saying I don't know that something is God, therefore, I don't know if it's telling the truth. There's a difference.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:01 am
Oh, I see. So what you're saying is that you don't know if God tells the truth?
The Biblical account of God sounds almost demonic to me. God being more or less a tribal war God and fertility God. Would the creator of all that is be as morally unsophisticated as the Biblical God?
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 2:04 am
You're saying you're in communication with a demon or lesser being? Or some other alien? Or delusions and hallucinations?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:58 amWell, according to many religions (including Christianity) it could be a demon or lesser being.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:51 amOkay, go ahead...what's the difference? I think I get it, but I want to be sure I'm understanding you. What would the "something" be that you're uncertain is God?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:12 am
No. It's saying I don't know that something is God, therefore, I don't know if it's telling the truth. There's a difference.
Or are you just saying you think that "religious" people are? But how would you decide that?
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 2:39 am
I don't claim to be in communication with anything other than people. You claim to be in communication with the supreme being. My point is I don't know and I don't think any human can.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 2:04 amYou're saying you're in communication with a demon or lesser being? Or some other alien? Or delusions and hallucinations?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:58 amWell, according to many religions (including Christianity) it could be a demon or lesser being.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:51 am
Okay, go ahead...what's the difference? I think I get it, but I want to be sure I'm understanding you. What would the "something" be that you're uncertain is God?
Or are you just saying you think that "religious" people are? But how would you decide that?
Re: Gary's Corner
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:17 am
I spend most of my time angry. And nothing makes me angrier than the idea that there are sinister people running our government and keeping us constantly in conflicts with other countries.
Of course, anger is not a constructive emotion. Why am I so combative? Why am I always so angry? Should I not be angry at the way the world is run by those who move the levers of power? Is there something wrong with me? Or do I have a right to be angry? Do I have good reason to be angry? Or is anger just going to make things worse?
Of course, anger is not a constructive emotion. Why am I so combative? Why am I always so angry? Should I not be angry at the way the world is run by those who move the levers of power? Is there something wrong with me? Or do I have a right to be angry? Do I have good reason to be angry? Or is anger just going to make things worse?