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Re: The first valid evidence that god does NOT exist
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 6:29 pm
by seeds
Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 4:01 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 3:40 pmIn entanglement, two particles can be separated by light-years,...
What is there light years of, between entangled particles?
The answer to that depends on whether you are speaking of Bohm's theory of the
"Implicate Order" or that of his
"Explicate Order."
There is no
"space" (at least not in the classical sense of that word) in the seamless and interpenetrating (entangled/Spinoza-ish)
"Oneness" of Bohm's Implicate Order (which is what I think Belinda was astutely getting at).
Space (again, in the classical sense) only resides in the context of Bohm's Explicate Order,...
...which, in itself, appears to be nothing more than an "illusion" that manifests from the interplay that takes place between consciousness and that of whatever it is that the entangled "Oneness" substance is made of, which, of course, includes whatever it is that consciousness is made of.
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Re: The first valid evidence that god does NOT exist
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:37 pm
by Belinda
Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 4:01 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 3:40 pmIn entanglement, two particles can be separated by light-years,...
What is there light years of, between entangled particles?
*Particle A and particle B are light years of distance apart .
*Particle A and particle B react the same to localised force C.
*Force C exists: Particles A and B exist.
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* It has to be the light years of distance between A and B that don't exist.
We experience the world of space and time. The world of no space no time is revealed only by the entanglement experiment , as far as I know.
Re: The first valid evidence that god does NOT exist
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:39 pm
by Belinda
seeds wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 6:29 pm
Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 4:01 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 3:40 pmIn entanglement, two particles can be separated by light-years,...
What is there light years of, between entangled particles?
The answer to that depends on whether you are speaking of Bohm's theory of the
"Implicate Order" or that of his
"Explicate Order."
There is no
"space" (at least not in the classical sense of that word) in the seamless and interpenetrating (entangled/Spinoza-ish)
"Oneness" of Bohm's Implicate Order (which is what I think Belinda was astutely getting at).
Space (again, in the classical sense) only resides in the context of Bohm's Explicate Order,...
...which, in itself, appears to be nothing more than an "illusion" that manifests from the interplay that takes place between consciousness and that of whatever it is that the entangled "Oneness" substance is made of, which, of course, includes whatever it is that consciousness is made of.
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Yes. The explicate order is the world we experience. The implicate order enfolds the explicate.