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Immanuel Can wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Why don't you just define 'morality' then, and clear up this incredibly boring and pointless discussion.

Rather, just answer the question. One word. One.

You are so fucking predictable. YOU are the one on here claiming so-called 'atheists' are amoral, yet you refuse to even define 'morality'. I defined it miles ago on this thread, but you ignore every single point made to you. Why don't you just fuck off and find somewhere else to proselytise with your insulting claims.

Immanuel Can wrote:
Rather, just answer the question. One word. One.

Immanuel Can wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:I am responsible for my choices and my honour.

Yes, you are...and will be accountable for the same.

This is Mr Can's way of saying 'Wait till your father gets home'. Our father, who art in heaven has a great big bag of sweeties, and a fucking huge stick. For Mr Can being good is about promoting your own self interest; it is the morality of children.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Why don't you just define 'morality' then, and clear up this incredibly boring and pointless discussion.

Rather, just answer the question. One word. One.

You are so fucking predictable. YOU are the one on here claiming so-called 'atheists' are amoral, yet you refuse to even define 'morality'. I defined it miles ago on this thread, but you ignore every single point made to you. Why don't you just fuck off and find somewhere else to proselytise with your insulting claims.

One word would have been shorter. And you would have won your point.

Either you don't want to win...or can't.

I'm thinking it's the latter.

Immanuel Can wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:
Rather, just answer the question. One word. One.

You are so fucking predictable. YOU are the one on here claiming so-called 'atheists' are amoral, yet you refuse to even define 'morality'. I defined it miles ago on this thread, but you ignore every single point made to you. Why don't you just fuck off and find somewhere else to proselytise with your insulting claims.

One word would have been shorter. And you would have won your point.

Either you don't want to win...or can't.

I'm thinking it's the latter.

You have to define the word first. There's not a heck of a lot of point in answering an answerable 'question'. Or is that the whole point? The only way you can 'win' your ridiculous 'argument'.
I noticed you bad-mouthing islam earlier. Are you suggesting your version of 'morality' (whatever you think it is, because we are all in the dark about that) is better than theirs?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: You have to define the word first.

Morality means to be moral, or to act morally, as in not harming another person. There is nothing in Atheism that supports morality.

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: You have to define the word first.

Morality means to be moral, or to act morally. There is nothing in Atheism that supports morality.

I didn't ask you. And that is not a definition. It's a moronic answer, but expected.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: It's a moronic answer.

Just trying to post something that you can understand.

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: You have to define the word first.

Morality means to be moral, or to act morally, as in not harming another person. There is nothing in Atheism that supports morality.

I see you hastily 'edited' after reading my comment. You really should stick your meaningless 'morality' up your kkkristian arsehole, because it's not much use to anyone. Kristians have been harming others for as long as there have been kristians, so your 'morality' (whatever that is) doesn't seem to achieve a heck of a lot. 'Morality' is simply social evolution. Ideas. And those are secular.

So he did. Oh well, here's my response to the original version.

thedoc wrote:Morality means to be moral, or to act morally.

That's not much help. What does one do to act morally?

thedoc wrote:There is nothing in Atheism that supports morality.

Do you think there is something in "Atheism" that supports immorality?

uwot wrote:So he did. Oh well, here's my response to the original version.

thedoc wrote:Morality means to be moral, or to act morally.

That's not much help. What does one do to act morally?

thedoc wrote:There is nothing in Atheism that supports morality.

Do you think there is something in "Atheism" that supports immorality?

Excellent question. Don't expect any answers though (keeping in mind that those clowns refuse to define either morality or immorality).

thedoc wrote:Morality means to be moral, or to act morally, as in not harming another person.

So by that definition god, who will harm the vast majority of human beings for eternity, is pretty fucking immoral.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:You have to define the word first.

Honestly, given your confusions, I don't think I can make it simple enough for you. But I'll try.

Say one thing (a value, an ethic, a moral precept) that every Atheist is rationally, ethically obliged to respect and uphold.

Let me even hand you an easy one: is there anything inherent to being an Atheist that makes it morally bad for an Atheist to commit genocide?

Most people will instinctively say that's "bad." Would an Atheist be bound to do the same? And why?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

uwot wrote:Do you think there is something in "Atheism" that supports immorality?

Excellent question. Don't expect any answers though.

Thank you. I don't; I take it as a huge compliment that neither Mr Can, nor thedoc, have the balls to answer my questions.

Immanuel Can wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:You have to define the word first.

Honestly, given your confusions, I don't think I can make it simple enough for you. But I'll try.

Say one thing (a value, an ethic, a moral precept) that every Atheist is rationally, ethically obliged to respect and uphold.

Let me even hand you an easy one: is there anything inherent to being an Atheist that makes it morally bad for an Atheist to commit genocide?

Most people will instinctively say that's "bad." Would an Atheist be bound to do the same? And why?

Is there something inherent in kristians to commit genocide? because they do it a heck of a lot. I don't remember the last genocide I committed. It must have slipped my mind.
So we now have a definiton of 'morality'. It means you mustn't commit genocide.