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Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:45 pm
by phyllo
Independent voters are also not happy with Trump
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:56 pm
by Walker
Trump is a Lame Duck, and he does not care about making decisions for Legacy.
He figures that putting his name on buildings and monuments, even on money, will take care of Legacy.
He figures his five beautiful children will take care of Legacy.
He's doing what he thinks is right, while being undermined in media, academia, by politicians, and by the lower court system that was never mentioned in the constitution.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:57 pm
by mickthinks
Er … I can’t find where Ruairidh Brown owns to being a Democrat, and nor can I find find where he describes Trump as a mastermind.
It looks like Manny doesn’t understand the challenge he’s faced himself with.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 7:42 pm
by Walker
You could make the seeking a new endeavour.
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Three dimensions is the mundane material world.
What is the fourth dimension?
The future.
That’s his game.
- Five beautiful children, eleven grandchildren, probably the most famous guy on the planet, lot’s of walking around money, famously generous.
- Any honest Democrat would call that a mastermind ... in the bigger picture of four dimensions.
That’s why Trump functions for the future after he’s gone. He reached a point where he realized he had to.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:06 pm
by Immanuel Can
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:57 pm
Er … I can’t find where Ruairidh Brown owns to being a Democrat, and nor can I find find where he describes Trump as a mastermind.
What about the "no kings" protest? Are you sure they were all Republicans?
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:21 pm
by mickthinks
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:06 pm
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:57 pm I doubt Manny can cite even one instance of a Democrat describing Trump as a mastermind.
What about the "no kings" protest?
Er … a “No Kings” protest does not describe Trump as a mastermind. Can anyone really be this obtuse? No, it’s just that Manny can’t admit his dishonesty, so he has to double-down like a moron.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:27 pm
by Immanuel Can
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:21 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:06 pm
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:57 pm I doubt Manny can cite even one instance of a Democrat describing Trump as a mastermind.
What about the "no kings" protest?
Er … a “No Kings” protest does not describe Trump as a mastermind.
Well, if he's not the mastermind behind the attempt to make him "king," then who do they think is? I'm open to contrary theories, if you've got one.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:36 pm
by mickthinks
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:27 pm
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:21 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:06 pm
What about the "no kings" protest?
Er … a “No Kings” protest does not describe Trump as a mastermind.
Well, if he's not the mastermind behind the attempt to make him "king," then who do they think is? I'm open to contrary theories, if you've got one.
That’s changing the subject. First, let’s just agree that you fabricated a straw man here:
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 12:59 pm
The Dems tell us … that he's an evil mastermind,
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:37 pm
by Gary Childress
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2026 3:05 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2026 2:47 pm
So starting an unprovoked war is no problem.
Are you meaning Ukraine? The Dems actually provoked that one. Farage told them, in the EU, a dozen years before it started that they had to stop encroaching on Putin, or they'd be inducing him to invade. And he was right. Why, then, was America (and the Bidens in particular) messing around in Ukraine?
Why did they push Ukrainian NATO membership, when they knew that Putin would invade?
As for the other war, could it be true, even remotely, that America was on the verge of allowing a totalitarian regime to acquire the means to nuke their allies, and had to act?
It's an honest question. I don't know the answer, and don't pretend to. But if Iran was on the verge of acquiring nuclear missiles, that does seem to me to be a very serious state of affairs. Does it seem so to you?
So, Russia attacking Ukraine is justified, and the US attacking Iran is justified in your book? Is that the case?
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:01 pm
by phyllo
Ukraine needs NATO membership to discourage Russia from invading it.
But according to Trump:
President Donald Trump suggested in two new interviews that he’s considering withdrawing the US from NATO after repeatedly criticizing a lack of support from members for the Iran war.
Asked by the right-leaning British publication The Telegraph in an interview published Wednesday if he would reconsider the US’ membership of NATO after the war, Trump said: “Oh yes, I would say (it’s) beyond reconsideration. I was never swayed by NATO. I always knew they were a paper tiger, and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin knows that too, by the way.”
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/01/middleea ... rawal-intl
Well, well, Putin knows that NATO is a "paper tiger". Imagine that.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:05 pm
by mickthinks
Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 7:42 pm
Walker seems deranged.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:05 pm
by Gary Childress
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:27 pm
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:21 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:06 pm
What about the "no kings" protest?
Er … a “No Kings” protest does not describe Trump as a mastermind.
Well, if he's not the mastermind behind the attempt to make him "king," then who do they think is? I'm open to contrary theories, if you've got one.
The people who voted for him (many of whom are regretting it according to popularity polls in the US) and put the majority of Republicans in Congress to rubber-stamp Trump's decisions made him king. Is that not an obvious answer to the question? AND if it weren't for the fact that he's making a LOT of bad decisions, it wouldn't be half as bad as it is.
Or do his decisions seem like good ones to you, such as pardoning campaign donors of crime sentences, denying climate change, wrecking many government agencies, alienating long-time allies, AND starting an unprovoked war with Iran (which the Iranians may end up benefiting from if they manage to get their toll system for the Straits of Hormuz to stick)?
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:17 pm
by Will Bouwman
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:36 pm...let’s just agree that you fabricated a straw man...
Good luck with that mickthinks.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:24 pm
by Gary Childress
The sad thing is a LOT of very well-informed people knew Trump was not a good choice. And they made that clear in their public statements and opinions. AND enough Americans ignored that advice from well-informed people regardless. And some of them STILL ignore that advice. Smack my head.
Re: Why are Americans so bloody stupid?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:58 pm
by Immanuel Can
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:36 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:27 pm
mickthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 8:21 pm
Er … a “No Kings” protest does not describe Trump as a mastermind.
Well, if he's not the mastermind behind the attempt to make him "king," then who do they think is? I'm open to contrary theories, if you've got one.
That’s changing the subject.
I'm on the same subject: who do these Democrats think is the mastermind of the "king" thing?