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accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:50 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:18 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:09 pm

Such bullshit. Not EVERYONE wants 'freedom' at all.
You're deluded.

'Freedom' doesn't mean doing what you like in your own yard regardless of how it affects others
Wrong! nothing I do in my yard affects you. You can only look down as far as your nose, and that's all you see, then you compare your being to mine and decide it's not as good as yours, so that you can make me your problem. Your problem is selfishness, but more importantly it's that you're ignorant of human differentiation. because if you understood that, you'd see that if I were as ignorant as you, I could act the same ignorant way, but I won't, because I'm more intelligent than you, and due to my understanding, I allow you to do as you want in your own yard. The only time I need to call the law, is when you break it, which will include you building a bomb or cooking up some methamphetamine or some other dangerous concoction. Anything that can physically harm your neighbors.

(and yes, I'm well aware of your weak 'clarification'). We are all part of a society, and have certain obligations as such
I'm not a part of anyone's society, I am an individual that pursues my own life that is independent of everyone other than those I decide to include. I've already paid for my freedom when I served for 16 long years in the military, potentially sacrificing my life for you and everyone you know and love, which caused me to miss many, many things that you've taken for granted. Until you do as I have done, we're not on equal ground, I have the moral high ground, and as such, I make allowances for people such as you. Because of what I've done in my life, I understand human differentiation, so I allow your individuality. I look into your yard with acceptance, albeit sometimes amusement.

. Everything is connected.
Yes the universe is, but that has nothing to do with my yard, I bought it, such are the rules of modern civilization. And as long as my doings in my yard are never an existential threat to you and yours, you should be like me, and understand human differentiation and leave me and mine alone Like I do you and yours.

If you do things in your yard that upset your neighbour, then they in turn are not going to give a shit about YOU and will make YOUR life as miserable as they can.
Your perception is clouded by your ignorance of human differentiation. And anyone that goes out of their way to harm me or mine, when I and mine have done nothing to them, will first meet the arm of the law, and if that fails, my oath to the constitution of the US will kick into gear, and I qoute: "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;...", because clearly your would have become a domestic enemy of the constitution of the US, which starts out: "We the People...", which can only be understood as, We, the group of individuals that get along.


Having consideration for others is not anti-freedom; it's the opposite of that.
Yet you have none, because you would make my life miserable if you didn't see things in my way of living that suited you, you said so yourself, because you can only speak for yourself. So you're an ignorant selfish fuck. That tries to dictate to others so you're happy. You are currently incapable of understanding human differentiation such that you can see us humans in the clearest of light, the way we really are.

Could you define exactly what you mean by 'freedom'? TIA.
Look it up in the dictionary, my definition does not differ.

ps. Humans are just another animal. We accept that other animals have certain traits and habits. Humans are group animals. Denying our basic nature has got us into quite a pickle.
The group is based on the fear of non-survival, originally especially from predation of other more capable predators. So like I said, to use one another. The use of another word that is more flattering, is both a method of control, by those that would do so, and a self assuring, aggrandizing thought.

I'll just consider the source. And by the way, Humans aren't social animals, that's a smoke screen. If the truth be told Humans just 'USE ONE ANOTHER' and call it sociability. Anything to get a step up!

Humans are absolutely social animals.
You're absolutely fooling yourself.

Even the most 'unsociable' humans need other human contact. When isolated, humans suffer hugely increased rates of mental disorders and physical health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
You mean the ones that don't use others as much as others do.

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:56 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:50 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:18 pm
I'll just consider the source. And by the way, Humans aren't social animals, that's a smoke screen. If the truth be told Humans just 'USE ONE ANOTHER' and call it sociability. Anything to get a step up!

Humans are absolutely social animals.
You're absolutely fooling yourself.

Even the most 'unsociable' humans need other human contact. When isolated, humans suffer hugely increased rates of mental disorders and physical health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
You mean the ones that don't use others as much as others do.

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:35 pm

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:56 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:50 am

Humans are absolutely social animals.
You're absolutely fooling yourself.

Even the most 'unsociable' humans need other human contact. When isolated, humans suffer hugely increased rates of mental disorders and physical health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
You mean the ones that don't use others as much as others do.

What a ridiculous way to respond. The eyes rebel. And no, I don't mean that. The scientific evidence shows me to be correct, although it's only common sense. Would you really want to live knowing that almost no one is aware of your existence, let alone cares whether you are dead or alive? It's not exactly rare for people to die at home alone, with just a rotting corpse or skeleton found months or even years later.
It's been proven that isolation and loneliness greatly increases the chance of health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
Why would you want to comment on internet forums if you have no interest in human contact?
Introverts also need social interaction--just in a different way and to a lesser degree than extroverts.
Humans evolved as social animals as a survival mechanism. We aren't tigers ffs, and even they need some kind of contact with each other or they would die out. Duh!

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SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:03 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:35 pm

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:56 pm

What a ridiculous way to respond. The eyes rebel. And no, I don't mean that. The scientific evidence shows me to be correct, although it's only common sense. Would you really want to live knowing that almost no one is aware of your existence, let alone cares whether you are dead or alive? It's not exactly rare for people to die at home alone, with just a rotting corpse or skeleton found months or even years later.
It's been proven that isolation and loneliness greatly increases the chance of health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
Why would you want to comment on internet forums if you have no interest in human contact?
Introverts also need social interaction--just in a different way and to a lesser degree than extroverts.
Humans evolved as social animals as a survival mechanism. We aren't tigers ffs, and even they need some kind of contact with each other or they would die out. Duh!

No the Duh goes to you. I said, and you'd know if you'd paid attention, and I quote, "other than those I decide to include." So your rant about isolation was unwarranted. Duh! (<-- just to speak your language. Does it suit you?)

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:32 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:03 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:35 pm

What a ridiculous way to respond. The eyes rebel. And no, I don't mean that. The scientific evidence shows me to be correct, although it's only common sense. Would you really want to live knowing that almost no one is aware of your existence, let alone cares whether you are dead or alive? It's not exactly rare for people to die at home alone, with just a rotting corpse or skeleton found months or even years later.
It's been proven that isolation and loneliness greatly increases the chance of health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
Why would you want to comment on internet forums if you have no interest in human contact?
Introverts also need social interaction--just in a different way and to a lesser degree than extroverts.
Humans evolved as social animals as a survival mechanism. We aren't tigers ffs, and even they need some kind of contact with each other or they would die out. Duh!

No the Duh goes to you. I said, and you'd know if you'd paid attention, and I quote, "other than those I decide to include." So your rant about isolation was unwarranted. Duh! (<-- just to speak your language. Does it suit you?)

I saw what you wrote. Duh!