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Will you PROVIDE ANY examples?Maia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:57 pmI was a real terror for that sort of thing, when I was little.
Thankfully, I grew out of it.
I strongly suspect that if I were suddenly able to see, I would be completely overwhelmed with new information and it would take me a long time to process it all.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:13 pmOkay, but, OBVIOUSLY, what is just 'according to a report' is NOT necessarily True, Right, Accurate, NOR Correct, at all nor even partly.Maia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:54 pmWell, according to that report, it took some people as much as a year to be able to distinguish things by sight alone, and that feels perfectly reasonable to me.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:15 pm
Thank you for clarifying how lucky and privileged you have been in Life, and thank you for clarifying the absolute absurdity to 'feeling sorry' for those who are just born 'the way' that they are.
ALL young children just ACCEPT and LIVE BY and WITH whatever they HAVE.
Thank you for clarifying.
Do you really think that the 'mental map of shapes', which you have already formed, would not help you to distinguish, nor help you to tell the difference, between things, just by sight alone?
And, how long or how much actual practice do you envision you would need before you could, for example, tell the difference between the two things 'chair' and 'tree'?
Now, MAYBE the 'sight' was NOT the BEST, from the OUTSET, and it took A year to be ABLE TO SEE, properly, in order to distinguish things by sight, alone.
However, I would be VERY SURPRISED if an adult who has been 'blind', from birth, and who was 'magically' gains 'sight' is ABLE TO 'see', as good as the majority of adults can see, that it would take more than the one HEARING on the first time, 'That is A tree, and, that is A chair', and then it would take any time AFTER 'that moment' to distinguish between, or tell the difference, between the two.Okay thank you for clarifying.
Are you able to begin to explain what the 'mental map of shapes', which you have, is like?
Yes, that's exactly why. Kids have a very fine sense of what's fair, and what isn't.
OF COURSE it would TAKE you A LONG TIME TO PROCESS 'IT ALL'.Maia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:33 pmI strongly suspect that if I were suddenly able to see, I would be completely overwhelmed with new information and it would take me a long time to process it all.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:13 pmOkay, but, OBVIOUSLY, what is just 'according to a report' is NOT necessarily True, Right, Accurate, NOR Correct, at all nor even partly.
Now, MAYBE the 'sight' was NOT the BEST, from the OUTSET, and it took A year to be ABLE TO SEE, properly, in order to distinguish things by sight, alone.
However, I would be VERY SURPRISED if an adult who has been 'blind', from birth, and who was 'magically' gains 'sight' is ABLE TO 'see', as good as the majority of adults can see, that it would take more than the one HEARING on the first time, 'That is A tree, and, that is A chair', and then it would take any time AFTER 'that moment' to distinguish between, or tell the difference, between the two.Okay thank you for clarifying.
Are you able to begin to explain what the 'mental map of shapes', which you have, is like?
Okay. Now, WHY do you NOT ENVISION that if you could, magically, SEE that you could RECOGNIZE, and/or DIFFERENTIATE, the shapes of a circle, square, and star for example, especially AFTER you have been TRACING those shapes WITH 'the fingers'?
Thank you, PROFUSELY, for CLARIFYING this.
And, WHERE did they GET 'this' FROM, EXACTLY?
At 'what age' did you START CRYING BECAUSE you could NOT see?
It was usually more of a temper tantrum, than crying, but it was only once in a while, anyway. I don't remember when I started but I definitely remember when I decided to stop, namely, when I was 11.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:56 pmAt 'what age' did you START CRYING BECAUSE you could NOT see?
And, WHY did you NOT have the supposed and alleged 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, BEFOREHAND?
WHY did the 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, just SUDDENLY ARISE? AND, what CAUSED 'it' TO ARISE, EXACTLY?
AGAIN, if ABSOLUTELY ANY one would like to have A Truly OPEN and Honest DISCUSSION, here, SO THAT what the ACTUAL Truth IS could and WILL come-to-light, then PLEASE let 'us' BEGIN.
Maybe WHY you were having these so-called 'temper tantrums' was NOT because you were NOT accepting of what you had, but because you were being MADE TO 'feel', even UNINTENTIONALLY, like you were MISSING OUT on some thing/s. Or, maybe because others had NOT YET LEARNED HOW SEE and TREAT 'you' as you WERE. you obviously NEEDED to be GUIDED in a DIFFERENT WAY to 'look at' and 'see' 'the world', which maybe the others around you had NOT YET LEARNED HOW TO DO Correctly or BETTER. But, anyway, obviously this 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, arose ONLY once in a while, anyway. It obviously was NOT a constant 'sense'.Maia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:01 pmIt was usually more of a temper tantrum, than crying, but it was only once in a while, anyway.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:56 pmAt 'what age' did you START CRYING BECAUSE you could NOT see?
And, WHY did you NOT have the supposed and alleged 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, BEFOREHAND?
WHY did the 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, just SUDDENLY ARISE? AND, what CAUSED 'it' TO ARISE, EXACTLY?
AGAIN, if ABSOLUTELY ANY one would like to have A Truly OPEN and Honest DISCUSSION, here, SO THAT what the ACTUAL Truth IS could and WILL come-to-light, then PLEASE let 'us' BEGIN.
So, that, supposed, 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, in regards to what you were having actual so-called 'temper tantrums' over just DISAPPEARED, right?
It disappeared because I made a deliberate decision not to think like that any more.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:48 pmMaybe WHY you were having these so-called 'temper tantrums' was NOT because you were NOT accepting of what you had, but because you were being MADE TO 'feel', even UNINTENTIONALLY, like you were MISSING OUT on some thing/s. Or, maybe because others had NOT YET LEARNED HOW SEE and TREAT 'you' as you WERE. you obviously NEEDED to be GUIDED in a DIFFERENT WAY to 'look at' and 'see' 'the world', which maybe the others around you had NOT YET LEARNED HOW TO DO Correctly or BETTER. But, anyway, obviously this 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, arose ONLY once in a while, anyway. It obviously was NOT a constant 'sense'.Maia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:01 pmIt was usually more of a temper tantrum, than crying, but it was only once in a while, anyway.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:56 pm
At 'what age' did you START CRYING BECAUSE you could NOT see?
And, WHY did you NOT have the supposed and alleged 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, BEFOREHAND?
WHY did the 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, just SUDDENLY ARISE? AND, what CAUSED 'it' TO ARISE, EXACTLY?
AGAIN, if ABSOLUTELY ANY one would like to have A Truly OPEN and Honest DISCUSSION, here, SO THAT what the ACTUAL Truth IS could and WILL come-to-light, then PLEASE let 'us' BEGIN.So, that, supposed, 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, in regards to what you were having actual so-called 'temper tantrums' over just DISAPPEARED, right?
Oh, and by the way, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that younger children KNOW what IS Right, and, what IS Wrong, in Life, and so also KNOW what IS FAIR, and what IS NOT FAIR, in Life.
And, WHEN children are NOT being MADE TO FEEL like they ARE MISSING OUT, because of some thing, then they WILL JUST ACCEPT, and WILL JUST LIVE WITH, what they HAVE.
Great. So, you DECIDED TO GO BACK TO WHERE you ONCE WERE.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:20 amIt disappeared because I made a deliberate decision not to think like that any more.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:48 pmMaybe WHY you were having these so-called 'temper tantrums' was NOT because you were NOT accepting of what you had, but because you were being MADE TO 'feel', even UNINTENTIONALLY, like you were MISSING OUT on some thing/s. Or, maybe because others had NOT YET LEARNED HOW SEE and TREAT 'you' as you WERE. you obviously NEEDED to be GUIDED in a DIFFERENT WAY to 'look at' and 'see' 'the world', which maybe the others around you had NOT YET LEARNED HOW TO DO Correctly or BETTER. But, anyway, obviously this 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, arose ONLY once in a while, anyway. It obviously was NOT a constant 'sense'.So, that, supposed, 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, in regards to what you were having actual so-called 'temper tantrums' over just DISAPPEARED, right?
Oh, and by the way, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that younger children KNOW what IS Right, and, what IS Wrong, in Life, and so also KNOW what IS FAIR, and what IS NOT FAIR, in Life.
And, WHEN children are NOT being MADE TO FEEL like they ARE MISSING OUT, because of some thing, then they WILL JUST ACCEPT, and WILL JUST LIVE WITH, what they HAVE.
I don't know. I don't remember a time when I wasn't aware of the fact that my brother and parents could see. If there was ever such a time then I was so young that I have no memory of it at all.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:04 amGreat. So, you DECIDED TO GO BACK TO WHERE you ONCE WERE.Maia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:20 amIt disappeared because I made a deliberate decision not to think like that any more.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:48 pm
Maybe WHY you were having these so-called 'temper tantrums' was NOT because you were NOT accepting of what you had, but because you were being MADE TO 'feel', even UNINTENTIONALLY, like you were MISSING OUT on some thing/s. Or, maybe because others had NOT YET LEARNED HOW SEE and TREAT 'you' as you WERE. you obviously NEEDED to be GUIDED in a DIFFERENT WAY to 'look at' and 'see' 'the world', which maybe the others around you had NOT YET LEARNED HOW TO DO Correctly or BETTER. But, anyway, obviously this 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, arose ONLY once in a while, anyway. It obviously was NOT a constant 'sense'.
So, that, supposed, 'very fine sense of what is fair, and what is not fair, in regards to what you were having actual so-called 'temper tantrums' over just DISAPPEARED, right?
Oh, and by the way, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that younger children KNOW what IS Right, and, what IS Wrong, in Life, and so also KNOW what IS FAIR, and what IS NOT FAIR, in Life.
And, WHEN children are NOT being MADE TO FEEL like they ARE MISSING OUT, because of some thing, then they WILL JUST ACCEPT, and WILL JUST LIVE WITH, what they HAVE.
you DELIBERATELY DECIDED TO 'look at' and 'see' things like HOW you DID when you were a younger child.
And, which MADE you HAPPIER and MORE CONTENT, correct?
AGAIN, ALL younger children just ACCEPT and LIVE BY and WITH whatever they HAVE. (I have Corrected what I SAID and WROTE previously so that what WAS ACTUALLY MEANT IS and BECOMES CLEARER.
It's true that I do still have a bit of a temper at times, though I make an effort control it. What I don't ever get angry about any more, not since the age of 11, is being blind.