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C'mon people, surely civilised "philosphical" members have something wise to say to archaic Muzzle Em idiocy upon our forum?

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:32 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:26 pm Oh for fuck sake. I couldn't care less if anyone makes fun of christianity, but imagine if it has been islam instead and the uproar THAT would have caused, with wokies like you shrieking their outrage the loudest (islamists wouldn't have shrieked they would have just started killing people).
They targeted christianity because it's safe to. That's cowardly.

Yeah, I don't want to be part of a religion that everybody and their little sister can insult ad libitum.

Y not?

godelian wrote:Andrew Tate also pointed that out.

Andrew Tate is a pretty boy worth_Y only of poofter woke following.

godelian wrote:Islam is a respectable religion,

No religion that believes a DIVINE CREATOR would expect it's ultimate creation to slaughter each other, to disrespect each other, in order for "worship" is a respectable religion.

godelian wrote:if only, because it enforces respect.

Respect is earned not enforced - that just leads to anything but respect (fool)

godelian wrote:People don't even need to love you -- Who even cares? -- as long as they fear your reprisals.

HELL_O

Owe=Muzzlems WILL fear Christ's judgement.

godelian wrote:At the almost invisible foundations of society, there is a hell of a lot of violence that keeps things in place.

Like lots of little girls that got stabbed to death today in Southport because of a Muzzle Em ---> 666 reincarnation for that pig.

godelian wrote:The alternative is Christian Lalaland where everybody is supposedly everybody else's friend and where people are free to mock other people's religion.

Mock it at will. 666 for Muzzle Ems that support such HATE. If yer lucky to paws for reflection SWAP - Dog. Those that kill for "ALLAH" = BEAST.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am Andrew Tate is a pretty boy worth_Y only of poofter woke following.

In my opinion, Andrew Tate says a lot of interesting things.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am No religion that believes a DIVINE CREATOR would expect it's ultimate creation to slaughter each other, to disrespect each other, in order for "worship" is a respectable religion.

We always get back to the same point.

Moses and Muhammad were the sovereign rulers of their nation. They regularly authorized military action against other nations. Every nation has to do that, whether you like it or not. So, don't compare Moses or Muhammad to Christ in terms of dealing with wars, because Christ was not the sovereign ruler of his nation. Christ was under strict Roman control. It is even the Roman governor who eventually decided whether Christ would live or die.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am Respect is earned not enforced - that just leads to anything but respect (fool)

Tell that to the police when they pull their sticks and beat the hell out of you. I don't respect you because respect is earned ... bla bla ... We will see how far you will get with that bullshit.

All respect is ultimately based on the fear for reprisals.
Respect is ultimately "earned" by beating the hell out of people who disrespect you.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am Like lots of little girls that got stabbed to death today in Southport because of a Muzzle Em ---> 666 reincarnation for that pig.

Why mention someone's religion in the context of a crime? Do we always keep mentioning that Hitler was a Christian? Technically, it was a bunch of Christians who ran the extermination camps of the Holocaust, no?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:46 am

C'mon people, surely civilised "philosphical" members have something wise to say to archaic Muzzle Em idiocy upon our forum?

I put him on ignore ages ago. He's insane.

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:32 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:18 am

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:05 pm Why do people think this has to do with American woke shit? Men have been dressing up as women in France for a long long long long time. America isn't the center of everything.

What part about Americans viewing everything through an America First lens suprises you?

The part where accelefine isn't even an American...

Ah so. Didn't know that.

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:32 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:26 pm Oh for fuck sake. I couldn't care less if anyone makes fun of christianity, but imagine if it has been islam instead and the uproar THAT would have caused, with wokies like you shrieking their outrage the loudest (islamists wouldn't have shrieked they would have just started killing people).
They targeted christianity because it's safe to. That's cowardly.

Yeah, I don't want to be part of a religion that everybody and their little sister can insult ad libitum.

AGAIN: Y not?

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:17 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am No religion that believes a DIVINE CREATOR would expect it's ultimate creation to slaughter each other, to disrespect each other, in order for "worship" is a respectable religion.

We always get back to the same point.

Moses and Muhammad were the sovereign rulers of their nation. They regularly authorized military action against other nations. Every nation has to do that, whether you like it or not. So, don't compare Moses or Muhammad to Christ in terms of dealing with wars, because Christ was not the sovereign ruler of his nation. Christ was under strict Roman control. It is even the Roman governor who eventually decided whether Christ would live or die.

AGAIN: What part of a Divine omnipotent entity would care about sovereign rule and armies slaughtering each other?

The BIG question I am asking is: Y does GOD an omnipotent being allow doubt and insist on FAITH?

godelian wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am Respect is earned not enforced - that just leads to anything but respect (fool)

Tell that to the police when they pull their sticks and beat the hell out of you. I don't respect you because respect is earned ... bla bla ... We will see how far you will get with that bullshit.

FFS. Do you think I haven't been on the end of a beating from a bunch of coppers?

It made me more of an anarchist (precisely wot Christ was) ....ANARCHY = AN_ARCH_Y?

..respect was lost - I RESPECT 1 man more than any. The man that went to His death insisting upon FAITH - to love and respect each other and with such conviction the hate of Muzzlems that only seek war and worship like little arse kissers the arse that is bent in front of them ---> will always be vanquished.

godelian wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:53 am Like lots of little girls that got stabbed to death today in Southport because of a Muzzle Em ---> 666 reincarnation for that pig.

Why mention someone's religion in the context of a crime? Do we always keep mentioning that Hitler was a Christian? Technically, it was a bunch of Christians who ran the extermination camps of the Holocaust, no?

Idiot. Hitler was NO Christian - whether he and other Nazis claimed to be is irrelevant.

Fact remains, any Muzzle Em can slaughter anyone for their religion and nobody can point out that they are acting against the instruction from their profit warlord MorHamMad. (because he was a disgusting EVIL kunt)

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:32 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:26 pm Oh for fuck sake. I couldn't care less if anyone makes fun of christianity, but imagine if it has been islam instead and the uproar THAT would have caused, with wokies like you shrieking their outrage the loudest (islamists wouldn't have shrieked they would have just started killing people).
They targeted christianity because it's safe to. That's cowardly.

Yeah, I don't want to be part of a religion that everybody and their little sister can insult ad libitum.

AGAIN: Y not?

In my opinion, religion has several important societal functions, which would be impaired, if we allow people to ridicule or otherwise insult our religion. It is the survival of society itself that requires us to rein in such negative behavior. It was the survival of Islam and the Muslim community that was at stake during the cartoons war. That is why the war had to be won.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am AGAIN: What part of a Divine omnipotent entity would care about sovereign rule and armies slaughtering each other?

Sovereign nationhood is simply part of reality, whether you like it or not.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am FFS. Do you think I haven't been on the end of a beating from a bunch of coppers?
It made me more of an anarchist (precisely wot Christ was) ....ANARCHY = AN_ARCH_Y?

Elephants follow a matriarch. Wolves follow an alpha couple. Bees follow their queen. Humans form a gang and follow their mafia boss, just like baboons do. Leadership, authority and societal hierarchy are part of the species' biology. Anarchy is unrealistic already just at the biological level. We, humans, will always form a gang and have a leading mafia boss. That is why I adamantly refuse to reject authority, leadership, or societal hierarchy. Doing so, is in violation of human nature, and even the nature of every social species.

Even though I certainly accept societal authority, I reject the idea that our mafia boss would be allowed to invent new laws. He cannot invent new laws because God has invented all the laws already.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am Idiot. Hitler was NO Christian - whether he and other Nazis claimed to be is irrelevant.

Yeah, Hitler was no true Scotsman.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am Fact remains, any Muzzle Em can slaughter anyone for their religion and nobody can point out that they are acting against the instruction from their profit warlord MorHamMad. (because he was a disgusting EVIL kunt)

I don't care what you think about prophet Muhammad. Seriously, I don't give a flying fart.

Personally, I think that he was a great leader for many reasons. Napoleon and Hitler also thought that prophet Muhammad was a great leader. As the leader of a sovereign nation, just like Moses, Muhammad had to beat the hell out of other, adversary nations. That was pretty much inevitable. He successfully did so. He turned out to be better at that game than his adversaries. So, what's your problem? You prefer leaders who are worse at it? Is that what would work better for you?

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:13 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:32 am
Yeah, I don't want to be part of a religion that everybody and their little sister can insult ad libitum.

AGAIN: Y not?

In my opinion, religion has several important societal functions, which would be impaired, if we allow people to ridicule or otherwise insult our religion. It is the survival of society itself that requires us to rein in such negative behavior. It was the survival of Islam and the Muslim community that was at stake during the cartoons war. That is why the war had to be won.

So. Islam is so Islame that its adherents feel ashamed or pathetic when they and their religion are ridiculed?

godelian wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am AGAIN: What part of a Divine omnipotent entity would care about sovereign rule and armies slaughtering each other?

Sovereign nationhood is simply part of reality, whether you like it or not.

But I am still asking U Y a Divine omnipotent entity would want or need mere mortal humans to sacrifice each other in order to be WORSHIPPED?

godelian wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am FFS. Do you think I haven't been on the end of a beating from a bunch of coppers?
It made me more of an anarchist (precisely wot Christ was) ....ANARCHY = AN_ARCH_Y?

Elephants follow a matriarch. Wolves follow an alpha couple. Bees follow their queen. Humans form a gang and follow their mafia boss, just like baboons do. Leadership, authority and societal hierarchy are part of the species' biology.

OK. So we are back to your belief that humans are animals..not separate as unique intelligent beings that can achieve peace. (btw most animals in a social structure are attempting to achieve peace) - Muslims are the 'animals' that are a problem for all.

godelian wrote:Anarchy is unrealistic already just at the biological level. We, humans, will always form a gang and have a leading mafia boss. That is why I adamantly refuse to reject authority, leadership, or societal hierarchy. Doing so, is in violation of human nature, and even the nature of every social species.

Hey, I am beyond comparing Christians and other humans to animals (Muzzle Ems).

godelian wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:20 am Fact remains, any Muzzle Em can slaughter anyone for their religion and nobody can point out that they are acting against the instruction from their profit warlord MorHamMad. (because he was a disgusting EVIL kunt)

I don't care what you think about prophet Muhammad. Seriously, I don't give a flying fart.

Of that I am certain. The problem remains of where your soul ends up for following and killing in the name of a false profit.

godelian wrote:Personally, I think that he was a great leader for many reasons. Napoleon and Hitler also thought that prophet Muhammad was a great leader. As the leader of a sovereign nation, just like Moses, Muhammad had to beat the hell out of other, adversary nations. That was pretty much inevitable. He successfully did so. He turned out to be better at that game than his adversaries. So, what's your problem? You prefer leaders who are worse at it? Is that what would work better for you?

Ooooo.... Napoleon/Hitler/MooHamMad - wonderful kunts.

U still haven't worked out Y the DIVINE OMNIPOTENT GOD only left MAN with a FAITH\DOUBT quest_ion.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:32 pm So. Islam is so Islame that its adherents feel ashamed or pathetic when they and their religion are ridiculed?

I personally don't care. However, I think that thorough reprisals are a commendable thing. All respect is ultimately based on the fear for reprisals. I don't care what you think about it, actually. If you ever get beaten up for making derogatory comments in public on Islam, I would tell you: "Serves you right!"

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:32 pm But I am still asking U Y a Divine omnipotent entity would want or need mere mortal humans to sacrifice each other in order to be WORSHIPPED?

What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China? Moses and Muhammad were sovereign rulers of their nation. They fought wars because that is what sovereign nations do. It was not about "sacrificing in order to worship" or whatever.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:32 pm OK. So we are back to your belief that humans are animals..not separate as unique intelligent beings that can achieve peace. (btw most animals in a social structure are attempting to achieve peace) - Muslims are the 'animals' that are a problem for all.

Humans are biological beings, just like the animals. You are not going to get anywhere by denying our biology. Humans are definitely a bit special. Nobody denies that. However, humans are also very biological nonetheless.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:32 pm Hey, I am beyond comparing Christians and other humans to animals (Muzzle Ems).

You may deny a Muslim's humanity, but I won't deny yours. You are obviously a human, but clearly a very misguided one.

I do not deny Hitler's humanity either, in spite of anything he may have done. I do not deny the humanity of even a serial killer. Some criminals may get the death penalty and get executed, but I believe nonetheless that they should get a proper funeral along with last rites.

If as a human you deny the humanity of other humans, you have stooped very low.

There are circumstances, such as wars, in which one must mercilessly and ruthlessly kill other humans. However, there are no circumstances in which we are allowed to deny the humanity of other humans.

If you really believe that the typical Christian endorses your views, i.e. denying the humanity of Muslims, then you are smoking very strong stuff. You are very much alone there, in that basket of deplorables of yours.

Fuck the crap..

godelian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:33 pmIf you really believe that the typical Christian endorses your views..

I'm the last man on Earth to give a fuck about wot the typical 'Christian' thought(s) might be.

So.

Did you state you were raised within a Catholic upbringing?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:07 am
On second thought: An artist failed to see the connection to the Last Supper? That's hard to believe.

Mr. Jolly's event title: La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine
"The Last Supper on a Stage on the Seine."

Dionysus probably never even had a last supper, although drag queens for a day certainly were in his wheelhouse.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:25 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:07 am
On second thought: An artist failed to see the connection to the Last Supper? That's hard to believe.

Mr. Jolly's event title: La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine
"The Last Supper on a Stage on the Seine."

Dionysus probably never even had a last supper, although drag queens for a day certainly were in his wheelhouse.

I get pretty confused messages when I look into La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine related to the Olympics opening. Do you have a decent source for that being the name the Jolley or the Committee used for that scene?

I found a reputable magazine, The Wrap, that says the producers of Olympics said it was inspired by the Last Supper. On the same day that Jolley said he wasn't.

Still not getting much clarity there.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:40 pm Still not getting much clarity there.

I read it somewhere, but not in this link. This link is the first thing that popped up, when I just now generously googled the words, “La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine”, for your convenience.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture ... pper-claim

I took a quick glance and see that the link cites sources for the title of the crappy production. No matter. The performance achieved its obviously intended blasphemy in spite of all the gaslighting …

(whether or not the “artist” wrote down the words “this is my intention,” before he or a representative from the Olympics said, “this was my intention", which is understandable seeing as how artists are often loath to say what a work means)

… although from what I hear some folks are now ashamed of the piece and are busy scrubbing, which could be viewed as a Christian purification of contrition for the sponsors and other money people (although the required confession that precedes contrition is missing), however contrition is doubtful seeing as how sometimes Corruption says the hell with the sponsors, full steam ahead with the wheel house, e.g., CNN.

The hell with the sponsors ... likely an anti-establishment, Left-bank artist's sentiment.

Another unstated intention is that Mr. Jolly’s name is now recognizable, especially at Christmas when folks are having a Holly Jolly Christmas.

Wonder how Mr. Jolly will get his jollies with that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uZnbzTG1jY
"ding ... dong ... ding"

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:55 pm I'm the last man on Earth to give a fuck about wot the typical 'Christian' thought(s) might be.

Just like by Muslims, you are also surrounded by Christians.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:55 pm Did you state you were raised within a Catholic upbringing?

Yes, I was born and baptized a Catholic. I guess that a century ago, I would not have felt the pressing need to switch to Islam. Back then, Catholicism was undoubtedly still "good enough" and no longer a dangerous state religion hell bent on burning heretics at the stake. In the 16th century I would undoubtedly have switched to some Protestant opposition church, in time, before it had become obvious that these new churches actually had all the same problems as the Catholic Church, and then some.