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Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:25 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:18 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:42 am you all have not yet seen what the words 'eternal dalmatian' refers to, exactly.

A dog is forever; not just for life.



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Very good, on your part here, and obviously very stupid on my part.

It wasn't stupid; it was just a common mistake. We all do it occasionally. I don't normally draw attention to typos (I make too many of my own), but that one was too good to miss.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:42 am Hm, not my experience. I've found Harbal to often be generous and not selfish.

In what way, exactly?

I have seen him defend someone from being attacked by another poster. I seeing him sharing his humor. I see him responding to people kindly and patiently, even when they are not being like that with him.

I am not sure how that fits in, at all, with the context that I was talking about and referring to, here.

But then you do have a very strong and common tendency of completely missing, and/or misunderstanding, what I am actually saying, and meaning, here

Once more I will suggest that you seek out and obtain actual clarity before you even begin to assume things, here

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am It seems some didn't even notice.

Okay. But, what is obvious is that some completely miss context, itself.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am So, please demonstrate that Harbal is what you accused him of being.

The human beings known as "harbal" here, in this forum, is as greedy and selfish as all of you adult human beings are, and were, back in the days when this was being written, in that all of you adult human beings will do things, for your own, and for a select few, benefit which causes and creates the detriment of and for others/things.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am

Obviously that one, "attofishpi", and you, are very selfish and greedy human beings

Also being blindingly greedy and selfish as you all, obviously, are, there is no wonder why you all have not yet seen what the words 'eternal dalmatian' refers to, exactly.

This one has time and again said he does not have or make general judgments of humans here. He is a liar.

Have I really said these words expressed here?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am Why would you assume we haven't seen those words?

LOL I never did.

And, what made you even assume what you did here?

The answer by the way is very easy and very simple to come to know, and understand.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am Age is losing it

This one has completely lost it here. it actually is, again, believing that its own made up assumption is true, right, accurate, and correct..

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am Perhaps he meant we don't know the meaning of the phrase or haven't seen that phrase before. Why would he assume that.
Age is losing it.

Talk about this one going absolutely astray, and off track, here, and again because of its already obtained beliefs and presumptions.

This one is so far afield and completely off track that it is completely lost here.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:38 am

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:23 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:18 am

Too funny. Do you think he wrote that in purpose? I've never seen him with a sense of humour before so I doubt it, but it's possible.

Well, the funny thing is eternal dalmatian is a bit of a joke phrase and I would assume an evasion of using 'damnation' or playing with avoiding it's use.

https://wiki.godvillegame.com/Eternal_D ... 20decieved.

Why would you even want to begin to assume such a thing as this?

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:54 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:25 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:18 am

A dog is forever; not just for life.



OIP.jpeg

Very good, on your part here, and obviously very stupid on my part.

It wasn't stupid; it was just a common mistake.

It was stupid for two reasons, well to me.anyway.

But then, like the word 'atheist' where 'we' use two very definitions for 'we' might, also, be using two very different definitions for the 'stupid' word here.

See, in the 'past' here, in this forum, people have assumed or believed that I have been putting others down, or degrading them, when I use the 'stupid' word. Whereas, and as I have explained many times, previously, I have never once done any such thing. And, this 'difference in view' is again just solely because of the 'different definitions', here, only, being used by 'different people', here.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:54 am We all do it occasionally. I don't normally draw attention to typos (I make too many of my own), but that one was too good to miss.

I agree.

By the way, absolutely any Wrong doing, or mistake, I make here, I really love them to have attention drawn to them, and for me to be made aware of all of them. And, especially so in regards to absolutely all apparent and actual false, wrong, inaccurate, and incorrect claims that I make and say.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:22 am

The human beings known as "harbal" here, in this forum, is as greedy and selfish as all of you adult human beings are, and were, back in the days when this was being written, in that all of you adult human beings will do things, for your own, and for a select few, benefit which causes and creates the detriment of and for others/things.

Shouldn't we try to strike a balance between actions that are for our own benefit and those for the benefit of others? If the wants and needs of others are worth respecting, why aren't our own? Not that I'm saying -at least in respect to myself- that there isn't room for improvement.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:50 am

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:23 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:18 am

Too funny. Do you think he wrote that in purpose? I've never seen him with a sense of humour before so I doubt it, but it's possible.

I think it was just an ordinary typo, demonstrating that he is only human, after all.

This only proves that people back in those days used to misspell things

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:24 am

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:38 am

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:23 am

Too funny. Do you think he wrote that in purpose? I've never seen him with a sense of humour before so I doubt it, but it's possible.

Well, the funny thing is eternal dalmatian is a bit of a joke phrase and I would assume an evasion of using 'damnation' or playing with avoiding it's use.

https://wiki.godvillegame.com/Eternal_D ... 20decieved.

Why would you even want to begin to assume such a thing as this?

That statement of mine is utterly true. I am not saying you were evading anything. I have no idea what you were on about. I just know it as a phrase playing on 'eternal damnation.' Once again you assumed something, instead of asking what I meant or what my focus was, you hypocrite.

But hey, you can tell me what was false there in my post to Flannel. Please explain what was incorrect in what I wrote and what isn't factual. Then we can see more of your assumptions.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:22 am I am not sure how that fits in, at all, with the context that I was talking about and referring to, here.

But then you do have a very strong and common tendency of completely missing, and/or misunderstanding, what I am actually saying, and meaning, here

Once more I will suggest that you seek out and obtain actual clarity before you even begin to assume things, here

Hello. I asked you if you thought those two were selfish and greedy. You answered Yes. Here's the original, moronic, reason you decided they were selfish and greedy...

As can be clearly seen here, once more, these posters, back then, were, literally, so blindingly selfish and greedy that they actually believed words like 'eternal damnation' were about them, personally.

But to be clear, I did ask a clarifying questions, which you answered in the affirmative. The conclusion is not justified by your 'reasoning', but beyond that the conclusion is false and does not fit my experience.

Okay. But, what is obvious is that some completely miss context, itself.

Oh, I saw the context, which was part of a poor batch of 'reasoning'. I focused on the conclusion, which was false.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am So, please demonstrate that Harbal is what you accused him of being.

The human beings known as "harbal" here, in this forum, is as greedy and selfish as all of you adult human beings are, and were, back in the days when this was being written, in that all of you adult human beings will do things, for your own, and for a select few, benefit which causes and creates the detriment of and for others/things.

1) you don't understand what greedy means to most people. If you want to communicate well, you'll find out what other people mean by it. Of course, not doing that gives you a chance to chastize people for assuming you meant what is usually meant by that word. I suppose, you may not want to lose the opportunity to chastize people. 2) Again confirming that you have broad general negative judgments of human beings at this time, which you have denied a number of times. Hypocrite. 3) Doing things for ourselves and the people we have access to and have developed relationships with is not selfish, it makes sense, because we know those people best. Or are you out there combing the hair of people you don't know well? Idiot. You are also looking at it in a very negative uncharitable ways, as is your habit. If we treat the people we come in contact with well, in general, this has effects that move outward, because they are then in a better postion to help the ones they know. You have a toxic view of others and this transcendant hallucination about yourself gives yourself permission to speak ill of people in general and hurl insults at individual, such as Harbal, who help more people than you ever will. It is beyond you to consider the effects of your toxic attitudes.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am

Obviously that one, "attofishpi", and you, are very selfish and greedy human beings

Also being blindingly greedy and selfish as you all, obviously, are, there is no wonder why you all have not yet seen what the words 'eternal dalmatian' refers to, exactly.

This one has time and again said he does not have or make general judgments of humans here. He is a liar.

Have I really said these words expressed here?

It's convenient how little you remember of what you say or imply that you are or waste our time asking when you know you have.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am Why would you assume we haven't seen those words?

LOL I never did.

Gaslighting.



The answer by the way is very easy and very simple to come to know, and understand.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am Age is losing it

This one has completely lost it here. it actually is, again, believing that its own made up assumption is true, right, accurate, and correct..

Projection.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:29 am Perhaps he meant we don't know the meaning of the phrase or haven't seen that phrase before. Why would he assume that.
Age is losing it.

Talk about this one going absolutely astray, and off track, here, and again because of its already obtained beliefs and presumptions.

This one is so far afield and completely off track that it is completely lost here.

Here's Age: another selfish egotist with no integrity.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm

I disagree. To say age is losing it is to imply age previously had it.

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:45 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm

I disagree. To say age is losing it is to imply age previously had it.

My apologies. Though I will keep alive the connotation that I see some further deterioration of late.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:43 am Always be a pudding person.

I try. But I often find I don't get a lot done. My job seems to require bones [I know, this is just an assumption] But when I retire, oh yeah.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:48 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:45 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm

I disagree. To say age is losing it is to imply age previously had it.

My apologies. Though I will keep alive the connotation that I see some further deterioration of late.

Age may have thought that if it gets off the heavy meds that slowed it down, and starts writing a lot more normally, and stops acting all mysterious and just comes out with its absolute truth, then we will really have no choice but to agree with it. But instead things only got worse, we can now point out its nonsense quicker and easier. Age is now about to explode.

Atla wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:03 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:48 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:45 pm

I disagree. To say age is losing it is to imply age previously had it.

My apologies. Though I will keep alive the connotation that I see some further deterioration of late.

Age may have thought that if it gets off the heavy meds that slowed it down, and starts writing a lot more normally, and stops acting all mysterious and just comes out with its absolute truth, then we will really have no choice but to agree with it. But instead things only got worse, we can now point out its nonsense quicker and easier. Age is now about to explode.

You're such an optimist [the last part]

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:45 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:22 am

The human beings known as "harbal" here, in this forum, is as greedy and selfish as all of you adult human beings are, and were, back in the days when this was being written, in that all of you adult human beings will do things, for your own, and for a select few, benefit which causes and creates the detriment of and for others/things.

Shouldn't we try to strike a balance between actions that are for our own benefit and those for the benefit of others?

That would all depend on if one looks at and sees "themself" as being One, 'with others', or as being separated, 'from others', and in regards to how many.

Also, what 'we' should, or should not, do is decided upon 'us', together, and by 'me'. So, it is not up to 'me' when you asked me what 'we' 'should' 'not do'. you, alone, decide what 'you' 'should', and 'should not', do, just like we, together, what 'we' 'should', or 'should not', do.

Now, as for so-called 'striking a balance' between what you call 'actions', in regards for your own benefit, and, for the benefit of others, then I just put it very simply that if what one is doing benefits them, or a select few, only, which is obviously to the detriment of some others, then what they are doing is misbehaving. And, all misbehaving is Wrong, or bad, in Life.

However, if what one is doing, which benefits all in Life, then this is 'striking the Right balance', and which is obviously what is good, and Right, in Life.

To me if any behavior benefits some only, then this is putting things 'off balance', is a misbehavior, and which is, obviously, not 'striking a, or the, balance', of Life, Itself.

The GUTOE can be summed up as every thing has an opposite, with an equilibrium. Within Life there is an equilibrium. Which is always put 'off kilter' when you adult human beings are misbehaving. And, any behavior that is only benefitting some, and not all, is a misbehavior, or an abuse of Life, Itself.

Obviously, every one/thing is a part of Life, Itself.

Whenever some are benefitting, while others are not, or to the detriment of others, then this is abuse of 'the other'.

And again, if 'one' is looking and seeing 'things' not as One, but as 'others', then 'that one' will also look at see some 'actions', or behaviors, as for 'their own benefit' while looking at seeing other 'actions', or behaviors, just for the benefit of others, only.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:45 am If the wants and needs of others are worth respecting, why aren't our own?

Although all of you adult human beings may have come, or 'grown up', to have very many different 'wants', and desires, all human beings have the exact same about four only 'needs', in Life.

Also, and by the way all of you human beings started out 'wanting', and desiring, the exact same thing, although this obviously changed as you so-called 'grew up', well in the days when this was being written anyway.

Now, the 'needs' of every thing are worthy of respecting. This goes, without saying and pointing out. And, the 'wants' that all of you started out with is also absolutely worthy of respecting, and if actually reaching for and achieving. However, absolutely every other 'want', which would not benefit absolutely every one/thing, is absolutely not worthy of absolutely any respect, at all. As obviously every one of those 'wants' comes from a Truly selfish and)or greedy perspective.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:45 am Not that I'm saying -at least in respect to myself- that there isn't room for improvement.

This is GREAT, and along with just a few other things is an essential part of making things/'the world' better for absolutely every one, as One

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:24 am

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:38 am Well, the funny thing is eternal dalmatian is a bit of a joke phrase and I would assume an evasion of using 'damnation' or playing with avoiding it's use.

https://wiki.godvillegame.com/Eternal_D ... 20decieved.

Why would you even want to begin to assume such a thing as this?

That statement of mine is utterly true.

I never said that it was not.

I just asked why would you even want to begin to assume, what you 'would'.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm I am not saying you were evading anything.

Okay.

I never said that you were. In fact I never even thought that you were.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm I have no idea what you were on about.

Okay, and once again you appear to have absolutely no interest nor curiosity in wanting to gain clarity, learn, nor understand here, as well

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm I just know it as a phrase playing on 'eternal damnation.' Once again you assumed something, instead of asking what I meant or what my focus was, you hypocrite.

Why do you believe what you do here?

And, what is the very 'thing', exactly, that you are here assuming that I was assuming?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm But hey, you can tell me what was false there in my post to Flannel. Please explain what was incorrect in what I wrote and what isn't factual.

Why do you assume and believe that I was saying some thing was incorrect, and not factual, there, in what you wrote?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:27 pm Then we can see more of your assumptions.

What is the, supposed, assumption that I, supposedly, made, in the beginning here, let alone you assuming that there are 'more assumptions' on my part?