Philosophy Now Forum

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:20 pm One things for dang sure. It sure can't be the way it was. I've heard of neighbors not getting along, but when there is no grounds for getting along, someone has to move, and it's usually the squatters.

That's just the way things are. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled about it or anything about the situation.

I already told you. Other countries who hate the West can take them in. Sure, they will be inconvenienced, that's too bad. That's life and it beats death. They can learn to code. The oil countries are flush with cash, they can take in lots of folks.

Other countries who hate the West can take them in.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:33 pm "This gets trickier because such behaviors may be related to a medical condition or, instead, it may revolve around those men and women who simply embrace a moral philosophy that is entirely narcissistic."

That's right. What we have are points along a spectrum that runs between clear and present physical disease or dysfunction and a set of normative moral ideas that form the pseudo-Foucaultean parameters for what constitutes 'mental' and 'emotional' illness, as opposed to clear physical degeneration of some kind that we can locate in the dome.

So u can be a physically healthy chainsaw massacre guy and still be 'mentally' and 'emotionally' sick,. obviously. But that's a different kind of unscientific 'sick'.

The step from neurology to psychology is an unstable one, so u need some normative values and ideas to have a foundation. U can't just say 'you're sick becuz u have a female shoe fetish' in the same way u would say 'you're sick with the flu'.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:02 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:20 pm One things for dang sure. It sure can't be the way it was. I've heard of neighbors not getting along, but when there is no grounds for getting along, someone has to move, and it's usually the squatters.

That's just the way things are. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled about it or anything about the situation.

I already told you. Other countries who hate the West can take them in. Sure, they will be inconvenienced, that's too bad. That's life and it beats death. They can learn to code. The oil countries are flush with cash, they can take in lots of folks.

All of this is irrational nonsense (I say that respectfully). You can't be taken seriously. And I don't think you are interested in being serious.

It can remain the same, and it can also get much worse. If you understood the psychology involved among those with messianic visions, and insane phantasy structures, in a volatile world set to explode, your views might change. But suit yourself of course.

The way things are -- what happens now -- is not settled.

Other countries who hate the West can take them in.

The West hates the West according to Mark Levin

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:10 pm That is where the Gaza folks can go, as already mention, and as yet unrefuted. As they know, the USA is the sanctuary country for the world.

I suspect you haven't looked deeply enough into this to understand what's going on.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:07 pm Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:27 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:07 pm Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

K: and yes, ''why would anyone care about the Holocaust?'' nothing happened there...
6 millions Jews dead isn't worth ''vegatar'' outrage... for that is vegetar shtick...
think of it like performance art... ''oh, look at me, I am outraged by''
whatever is this week outrage... and try to get her to actually think about
the outrage.. god forbid.. or even to think about her own response?
oh, may as well ask for the gold in Fort Knox...

all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Kropotkin

…all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:35 am

…all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Ouch!

That fits.

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:27 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:07 pm Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

K: and yes, ''why would anyone care about the Holocaust?'' nothing happened there...
6 millions Jews dead isn't worth ''vegatar'' outrage... for that is vegetar shtick...
think of it like performance art... ''oh, look at me, I am outraged by''
whatever is this week outrage... and try to get her to actually think about
the outrage.. god forbid.. or even to think about her own response?
oh, may as well ask for the gold in Fort Knox...

all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Kropotkin